Greg Maddux Career Tracker!

Oh you guys dont even know about being sad because a player retired.

gdennis59 wrote:

Oh you guys dont even know about being sad because a player retired.

I am still pissed about Jones retiring



I hope he unretires


But I like Maddux also

Would love to see both in 2009 in a Tigers Uniform

gdennis59 wrote:

Oh you guys dont even know about being sad because a player retired.

I think baseball fans worldwide are more upset about Maddux than Jones. Maddux is arguably the greatest pitcher in 50 years, possibly the greatest pitcher of the live ball era. Todd Jones well...isn't.

Maddux will go down as the only pitcher in history with 300+ wins (he of course has 355), 3,000+ K's, and under 1000 walks.

catbox_9 wrote:

gdennis59 wrote:

Oh you guys dont even know about being sad because a player retired.

I think baseball fans worldwide are more upset about Maddux than Jones. Maddux is arguably the greatest pitcher in 50 years, possibly the greatest pitcher of the live ball era. Todd Jones well...isn't.

Maddux will go down as the only pitcher in history with 300+ wins (he of course has 355), 3,000+ K's, and under 1000 walks.

Maddux is the greatest pitcher the last 50 years


But Todd Jones is the greatest relief pitcher in Tigers history

They need to build a Todd Jones Statue at Comerica

gs78 wrote:

catbox_9 wrote:

gdennis59 wrote:

Oh you guys dont even know about being sad because a player retired.

I think baseball fans worldwide are more upset about Maddux than Jones. Maddux is arguably the greatest pitcher in 50 years, possibly the greatest pitcher of the live ball era. Todd Jones well...isn't.

Maddux will go down as the only pitcher in history with 300+ wins (he of course has 355), 3,000+ K's, and under 1000 walks.

Maddux is the greatest pitcher the last 50 years


But Todd Jones is the greatest relief pitcher in Tigers history

There have been way more great pitchers in the last 50 years than there have been great Tigers closers.

Still, the point most people are missing is the fact that Todd Jones really is one of the greatest relief pitchers in the game. He really had a great career on and off the field. I dont really care how many people perceive him as a no good relief pitcher (not saying you do cat, but there are many people who do). But he is my favorite baseball player ever, as well as my inspiration, idol, and role model.

catbox_9 wrote:

gs78 wrote:

catbox_9 wrote:

gdennis59 wrote:

Oh you guys dont even know about being sad because a player retired.

I think baseball fans worldwide are more upset about Maddux than Jones. Maddux is arguably the greatest pitcher in 50 years, possibly the greatest pitcher of the live ball era. Todd Jones well...isn't.

Maddux will go down as the only pitcher in history with 300+ wins (he of course has 355), 3,000+ K's, and under 1000 walks.

Maddux is the greatest pitcher the last 50 years


But Todd Jones is the greatest relief pitcher in Tigers history

There have been way more great pitchers in the last 50 years than there have been great Tigers closers.

Name Three

gdennis59 wrote:

Still, the point most people are missing is the fact that Todd Jones really is one of the greatest relief pitchers in the game. He really had a great career on and off the field. I dont really care how many people perceive him as a no good relief pitcher (not saying you do cat, but there are many people who do). But he is my favorite baseball player ever, as well as my inspiration, idol, and role model.

Todd Jones Rules



Why can't people give him the respect he deserves

gs78 wrote:

catbox_9 wrote:

gs78 wrote:

catbox_9 wrote:

gdennis59 wrote:

Oh you guys dont even know about being sad because a player retired.

I think baseball fans worldwide are more upset about Maddux than Jones. Maddux is arguably the greatest pitcher in 50 years, possibly the greatest pitcher of the live ball era. Todd Jones well...isn't.

Maddux will go down as the only pitcher in history with 300+ wins (he of course has 355), 3,000+ K's, and under 1000 walks.

Maddux is the greatest pitcher the last 50 years


But Todd Jones is the greatest relief pitcher in Tigers history

There have been way more great pitchers in the last 50 years than there have been great Tigers closers.

Name Three

Name 3 great pitchers in the last 50 years? I don't even know where to begin there's so many.....
Tom Seaver
Steve Carlton
Sandy Koufax

gs78 wrote:

gdennis59 wrote:

Still, the point most people are missing is the fact that Todd Jones really is one of the greatest relief pitchers in the game. He really had a great career on and off the field. I dont really care how many people perceive him as a no good relief pitcher (not saying you do cat, but there are many people who do). But he is my favorite baseball player ever, as well as my inspiration, idol, and role model.

Todd Jones Rules



Why can't people give him the respect he deserves

Your telling me.

catbox_9 wrote:

gs78 wrote:

catbox_9 wrote:

gs78 wrote:

catbox_9 wrote:

gdennis59 wrote:

Oh you guys dont even know about being sad because a player retired.

I think baseball fans worldwide are more upset about Maddux than Jones. Maddux is arguably the greatest pitcher in 50 years, possibly the greatest pitcher of the live ball era. Todd Jones well...isn't.

Maddux will go down as the only pitcher in history with 300+ wins (he of course has 355), 3,000+ K's, and under 1000 walks.

Maddux is the greatest pitcher the last 50 years


But Todd Jones is the greatest relief pitcher in Tigers history

There have been way more great pitchers in the last 50 years than there have been great Tigers closers.

Name Three

Name 3 great pitchers in the last 50 years? I don't even know where to begin there's so many.....
Tom Seaver
Steve Carlton
Sandy Koufax

NO NO NO



I meant name three Tigers Closers better than Jones

Tom Seaver is my all time favorite!

But Todd is one of the Tiger's best relievers ever!

Still Waiting Cat


Name three Tigers Closers better than Jones

Welp, seems Jonesy is the best

gdennis59 wrote:

Welp, seems Jonesy is the best

gs78 wrote:

Still Waiting Cat


Name three Tigers Closers better than Jones

I didn't say there were any. I just there haven't been many great Tigers closers....there have been lots of great pitchers over the last 50 years.

catbox_9 wrote:

gs78 wrote:

Still Waiting Cat


Name three Tigers Closers better than Jones

I didn't say there were any. I just there haven't been many great Tigers closers....there have been lots of great pitchers over the last 50 years.

And that makes Todd Jones the greatest relief pitcher in Tigers History

I didn't disagree. Being the best pitcher of the last 50 years is more impressive though.

catbox_9 wrote:

I didn't disagree. Being the best pitcher of the last 50 years is more impressive though.

It Is


But Jones rules

And Maddux Rules

12/05/08 7:33 PM EST
Maddux to announce retirement Monday
Four-time Cy Young ending career ranked eighth with 355 wins

By Carrie Muskat / MLB.com

His best pitch was a well-located fastball. He didn't try to overpower hitters, just confuse them. And batters everywhere can breathe a sigh of relief.

Four-time Cy Young winner Greg Maddux is retiring. The slender right-hander, who lives in Las Vegas during the offseason, was expected to make it official Monday during a news conference at 11:30 a.m. PT at the Bellagio, where the Winter Meetings are being held.

Then, he'll probably go play 18 holes.

Maddux, who turns 43 in April, ranks eighth on the career wins list with 355, one more than Roger Clemens. News outlets confirmed Maddux's announcement through his agent's office. In November, agent Scott Boras told reporters that Maddux was "doubtful" for 2009, adding, "As it stands now, he is not going to play."

He was known for his control, not 99-mph fastballs. It's a lost art. In his 23-year career, Maddux has compiled a 355-227 record with 3.16 ERA and finished with 109 complete games.

Maddux will walk away having issued 999 walks and striking out 3,371. Hall of Famer Ferguson Jenkins is the only other pitcher with 3,000 strikeouts and fewer than 1,000 walks.

"I try to do two things: locate my fastball and change speeds. That's it," Maddux said at one point in his career. "I try to keep it as simple as possible. I just throw my fastball [to] both sides of the plate and change speed every now and then. There's no special food or anything like that. I just try to make quality pitches and try to be prepared each time I go out there."

On Sept. 14 at Colorado, Maddux held the Rockies to two hits over seven scoreless innings, striking out three. It was vintage Maddux.

"The guy was remarkable," Dodgers manager Joe Torre said.

Hall of Famer Joe Morgan once said: "Greg Maddux could put a baseball through a life saver if you asked him."

Maddux began his career in 1986 with the Chicago Cubs, making his Major League debut in September as a pinch-runner. He left the Cubs after the 1992 season, when he won his first National League Cy Young Award, going 20-11 with a 2.18 ERA. Maddux then signed with the Atlanta Braves, joining John Smoltz and Tom Glavine, and had an incredible run, winning at least 18 games in six of his next 11 seasons.

Maddux won the Cy Young again in 1993 (20-10, 2.36 ERA), '94 (16-6, 1.56 ERA) and '95 (19-2, 1.63 ERA). This past season, he picked up his 18th Gold Glove, and has won the NL defensive honors every year since '90 with the exception of the 2003 season, when Mike Hampton took the award.

Maddux began this season with the San Diego Padres and was dealt to the Dodgers on Aug. 19. He was a combined 8-13 with the two teams, and the Dodgers used him out of the bullpen in the postseason. Los Angeles general manager Ned Colletti had left open the possibility of Maddux returning for '09.

"I told Scott we'd love to have him back, and we're not going to be closing the door on Greg Maddux anytime soon," Colletti said last month. "I've known him for a long, long time. I respect who he is and admire him for what he's done. I know the impact he has on a club and on a franchise."

Back in August 2005, Maddux notched a complete-game victory over the St. Louis Cardinals during the right-hander's second turn with the Cubs from 2004-06.

"He doesn't throw as hard as he used to throw when he started his career, but he's finding a way to get some guys out in front," Albert Pujols said at the time, noting the approach Maddux has used throughout his career. "He makes a good pitch to get out of a jam. That's the only way you can do it. ... That guy is smart, and that's why he's a future Hall of Famer."

Nicknamed the Professor, Maddux learned early that he wouldn't be effective trying to throw hard. He had to be smart, and often dazzled teammates in the dugout by calling an opponent's pitches during a game.

"He's something else," said Cincinnati pitching coach Dick Pole, who saw Maddux's first win with the Cubs and also his 300th on Aug. 7, 2004. "They broke that mold. He hasn't done it with power, he hasn't done it with anything except pitching, finesse pitching."

Carrie Muskat is a reporter for MLB.com. This story was not subject to the approval of Major League Baseball or its clubs.

Braves to retire Maddux's number
Ceremony to be held at Turner Field in July

By Ed Eagle / MLB.com

04/05/09 9:13 AM ET
Future Hall of Famer Greg Maddux spent some of his greatest seasons in a Braves uniform, and as a tribute to his amazing 11-year run in Atlanta, Maddux's No. 31 will be retired by the franchise this summer.

Maddux will be inducted into the Braves Hall of Fame on July 17 and his number will be retired during an on-field ceremony prior to a game against the Mets.

Maddux joins Dale Murphy (No. 3), Warren Spahn (21), Phil Niekro (35), Eddie Mathews (41) and Hank Aaron (44) as the sixth Braves player to have his number retired. The No. 42 has also been retired throughout Major League Baseball as a tribute to Jackie Robinson.

"It's exciting," Maddux told the Atlanta Journal-Constitution. "You sit on that bench for 10 years in Atlanta, staring at the outfield wall and seeing Hank Aaron, Eddie Mathews, Warren Spahn and Phil Niekro. Seeing all those names every day -- you always wonder what it would be like to face them."

Maddux, who retired after last season, is ranked eighth all-time with 355 career wins, went 194-88 with a 2.63 ERA with the Braves from 1993-2003. He earned three of his four Cy Young Awards ('93-95) and 10 of his 18 Gold Gloves while helping lead the Braves to a record 14 consecutive division titles.

"Greg is such a large and important part of this organization and his contributions to this team are immeasurable," Brvaes president John Schuerholz said in a news release. "We feel this is a great way to honor him and to thank him for his years here in Atlanta."

Maddux will have his number retired twice this season. The Cubs announced earlier this spring that they will hold a ceremony on May 3 to honor Maddux and Hall of Famer Ferguson Jenkins, both of whom wore No. 31 for the North Siders. Maddux broke into the big leagues with the Cubs in 1986 and won his first Cy Young there in 1992. He also won 38 games during a second stint with the Cubs from 2004-06.