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gs78 Detroit Tiger
Number of posts : 27687 Age : 46 Location : Trashy Park Michigan Favorite Current Tiger(s) : Dontrelle Willis, Brandon Inge, Maggs, Verlander, Granderson, Pudge and Todd Jones Reputation : 9 Registration date : 2007-10-06
| Subject: FIRE MILLEN! Sun Dec 02, 2007 10:30 pm | |
| THE LIONS WERE A JOKE THIS AFTERNOON: IF LIONS LOSE THEIR REMAINING GAMES< MILLEN HAS GOT TO GO! | |
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gs78 Detroit Tiger
Number of posts : 27687 Age : 46 Location : Trashy Park Michigan Favorite Current Tiger(s) : Dontrelle Willis, Brandon Inge, Maggs, Verlander, Granderson, Pudge and Todd Jones Reputation : 9 Registration date : 2007-10-06
| Subject: Re: FIRE MILLEN! Sun Dec 02, 2007 10:30 pm | |
| HEY MILLEN | |
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catbox_9 DTF1 ADMINISTRATOR Detroit Tiger
Number of posts : 22295 Age : 37 Location : Paso Robles, California Favorite Current Tiger(s) : Justin Verlander Reputation : 17 Registration date : 2007-10-05
| Subject: Re: FIRE MILLEN! Mon Dec 03, 2007 12:47 am | |
| If the Lions win out and win the Super Bowl this year Millen has to go!
If the rises tomorrow morning Millen has to go!
Millen has to go! | |
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gs78 Detroit Tiger
Number of posts : 27687 Age : 46 Location : Trashy Park Michigan Favorite Current Tiger(s) : Dontrelle Willis, Brandon Inge, Maggs, Verlander, Granderson, Pudge and Todd Jones Reputation : 9 Registration date : 2007-10-06
| Subject: Re: FIRE MILLEN! Mon Dec 03, 2007 12:54 am | |
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gs78 Detroit Tiger
Number of posts : 27687 Age : 46 Location : Trashy Park Michigan Favorite Current Tiger(s) : Dontrelle Willis, Brandon Inge, Maggs, Verlander, Granderson, Pudge and Todd Jones Reputation : 9 Registration date : 2007-10-06
| Subject: Re: FIRE MILLEN! Mon Dec 10, 2007 3:28 am | |
| Hey Millen! | |
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bobrob2004 DTF1 MODERATOR Detroit Tiger
Number of posts : 10646 Age : 39 Location : Warren, MI Reputation : 12 Registration date : 2007-10-05
| Subject: Re: FIRE MILLEN! Mon Dec 10, 2007 12:33 pm | |
| Here's a question: Who do we hate more:
- Matt Millen
- Jerry Hairston
- Randy Smith
- George Bush Jr.
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SoulRat DTF1 ADMINISTRATOR Detroit Tiger
Number of posts : 9935 Location : I'm movin' to Florida... Favorite Current Tiger(s) : I like fish at the moment.... Reputation : 0 Registration date : 2007-10-04
| Subject: Re: FIRE MILLEN! Mon Dec 10, 2007 12:53 pm | |
| Why? The Lions did so well yesterday | |
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catbox_9 DTF1 ADMINISTRATOR Detroit Tiger
Number of posts : 22295 Age : 37 Location : Paso Robles, California Favorite Current Tiger(s) : Justin Verlander Reputation : 17 Registration date : 2007-10-05
| Subject: Re: FIRE MILLEN! Mon Dec 10, 2007 5:28 pm | |
| - bobrob2004 wrote:
- Here's a question:
Who do we hate more:
- Matt Millen
- Jerry Hairston
- Randy Smith
- George Bush Jr.
I'd say one of the first two | |
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GoGetEmTigers DTF1 ADMINISTRATOR Detroit Tiger
Number of posts : 57424 Age : 65 Location : Eastern Ohio, near Wheeling WV Favorite Current Tiger(s) : JV, Hunter, Jackson, Porcello, Avila (really ALL of em!) Reputation : 20 Registration date : 2007-10-05
| Subject: Re: FIRE MILLEN! Mon Dec 10, 2007 8:16 pm | |
| MICHAEL ROSENBERG Dombrowski, Dumars change on the fly to win; Millen's steady plans leave him a loser
December 9, 2007 BY MICHAEL ROSENBERG FREE PRESS COLUMNIST
Early in Dave Dombrowski's tenure as Tigers general manager, I asked him about the importance of having a clear plan, which I thought was lacking under the Randy Smith regime. His response was telling -- more telling than I realized then. He shifted the conversation away from the word "plan."
"It comes down to making good decisions," he said.
Building the 2010 Tigers around Andrew Miller and Cameron Maybin was a plan; trading them for slightly older, more expensive established stars was a good decision.
Why have Dombrowski and Joe Dumars turned around their franchises while Matt Millen has failed miserably? I think you can start there. Dombrowski and Dumars make good decisions. Millen falls in love with a plan.
The most amazing part of the Miller/Maybin-Miguel Cabrera/Dontrelle Willis swap is how quickly it took place. On Monday, the Tigers had two seemingly untouchable minor league prospects. By Tuesday evening, both were gone.
Dombrowski was not worried about the public reaction (which has been positive, but that was hard to know before the trade became public). He was not worried about changing direction. He thought he could give his team a better chance to win the World Series by making the deal, so he did it.
Dumars has the same philosophy. Building around a gifted 7-foot Serbian was a decent plan, but when it didn't work out, Dumars decided that trading Darko Milicic for a first-round pick was a smart decision.
More than any executive I have ever covered, Dumars understands that what matters is the record. That's it.After the 2002-03 season, nobody called for Dumars to fire coach Rick Carlisle, whose first two seasons were a clear success. But Dumars wasn't worried about perceptions. He thought that firing Carlisle and hiring Larry Brown was the right decision for his franchise, and so he did it.
Let's contrast that with Millen. He keeps falling in love with plans, with big ideas, with possibilities.
When Millen drafted receivers with three straight first-round picks, he envisioned a light-'em-up Lions offense. But the third choice, especially, was a bad decision, and not just because Mike Williams turned out to be a bust. The third receiver on any team can never contribute enough to justify the use of a top-10 draft pick.
Then there is this: Dombrowski and Dumars are willing to divorce themselves from their past decisions -- even the great ones, like drafting Cameron Maybin or trading for Ben Wallace.
Meanwhile, Millen clings to past decisions. It is as though he is justifying those choices, even to himself.
The best franchise in the NFL, the New England Patriots, routinely lets high-profile players leave via free agency rather than spend too much money on them. Millen gave much-maligned draft pick Kalimba Edwards a ridiculous five-year extension after a few good games.
In the last two off-seasons, Millen slapped "franchise player" tags on Cory Redding and Jeff Backus, two decent players who are now paid like great ones. Redding and Backus are both Millen draftees, and Millen was not going to let them walk.
I know it doesn't seem like it, but Matt Millen knows football. He was considered a bright player. But being a successful general manager is not as simple as understanding the game.
Yes, Millen understands football. But if he is ever going to be a successful executive, he must come to understand himself.
He must understand how his emotions keep him from making good decisions, and why his championship fantasies keep him from a championship reality. | |
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gs78 Detroit Tiger
Number of posts : 27687 Age : 46 Location : Trashy Park Michigan Favorite Current Tiger(s) : Dontrelle Willis, Brandon Inge, Maggs, Verlander, Granderson, Pudge and Todd Jones Reputation : 9 Registration date : 2007-10-06
| Subject: Re: FIRE MILLEN! Tue Dec 11, 2007 1:59 am | |
| How about adding Michael Vick to that list? | |
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gs78 Detroit Tiger
Number of posts : 27687 Age : 46 Location : Trashy Park Michigan Favorite Current Tiger(s) : Dontrelle Willis, Brandon Inge, Maggs, Verlander, Granderson, Pudge and Todd Jones Reputation : 9 Registration date : 2007-10-06
| Subject: Re: FIRE MILLEN! Tue Dec 18, 2007 4:44 pm | |
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gs78 Detroit Tiger
Number of posts : 27687 Age : 46 Location : Trashy Park Michigan Favorite Current Tiger(s) : Dontrelle Willis, Brandon Inge, Maggs, Verlander, Granderson, Pudge and Todd Jones Reputation : 9 Registration date : 2007-10-06
| Subject: Re: FIRE MILLEN! Sun Dec 30, 2007 5:11 pm | |
| LIONS ARE A JOKE! FIRE MILLEN! | |
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gs78 Detroit Tiger
Number of posts : 27687 Age : 46 Location : Trashy Park Michigan Favorite Current Tiger(s) : Dontrelle Willis, Brandon Inge, Maggs, Verlander, Granderson, Pudge and Todd Jones Reputation : 9 Registration date : 2007-10-06
| Subject: FIRE MILLEN! BUT FORD NEEDS TO SELL THE LIONS! Mon Dec 31, 2007 7:50 am | |
| LIONS WILL NEVER WIN AS LONG AS FORD OWNS THE TEAM! SELL THE LIONS! | |
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gs78 Detroit Tiger
Number of posts : 27687 Age : 46 Location : Trashy Park Michigan Favorite Current Tiger(s) : Dontrelle Willis, Brandon Inge, Maggs, Verlander, Granderson, Pudge and Todd Jones Reputation : 9 Registration date : 2007-10-06
| Subject: Re: FIRE MILLEN! Mon Dec 31, 2007 7:17 pm | |
| MILLEN SUCKS | |
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gs78 Detroit Tiger
Number of posts : 27687 Age : 46 Location : Trashy Park Michigan Favorite Current Tiger(s) : Dontrelle Willis, Brandon Inge, Maggs, Verlander, Granderson, Pudge and Todd Jones Reputation : 9 Registration date : 2007-10-06
| Subject: Re: FIRE MILLEN! Mon Dec 31, 2007 7:17 pm | |
| Hey Ford; | |
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gs78 Detroit Tiger
Number of posts : 27687 Age : 46 Location : Trashy Park Michigan Favorite Current Tiger(s) : Dontrelle Willis, Brandon Inge, Maggs, Verlander, Granderson, Pudge and Todd Jones Reputation : 9 Registration date : 2007-10-06
| Subject: Re: FIRE MILLEN! Fri Jan 04, 2008 3:51 pm | |
| Martz is gone but Millen stays! | |
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gs78 Detroit Tiger
Number of posts : 27687 Age : 46 Location : Trashy Park Michigan Favorite Current Tiger(s) : Dontrelle Willis, Brandon Inge, Maggs, Verlander, Granderson, Pudge and Todd Jones Reputation : 9 Registration date : 2007-10-06
| Subject: Re: FIRE MILLEN! Fri Jan 04, 2008 3:51 pm | |
| DIE FORD DIE! | |
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gs78 Detroit Tiger
Number of posts : 27687 Age : 46 Location : Trashy Park Michigan Favorite Current Tiger(s) : Dontrelle Willis, Brandon Inge, Maggs, Verlander, Granderson, Pudge and Todd Jones Reputation : 9 Registration date : 2007-10-06
| Subject: Re: FIRE MILLEN! Sat Jan 05, 2008 12:28 am | |
| Fire Martz! Yeah that will work! Instead of Kitna throwing for 300 yards a game, Kevin Jones can now carry the ball 22 times for 57 yards a game!
GO LIONS! | |
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gs78 Detroit Tiger
Number of posts : 27687 Age : 46 Location : Trashy Park Michigan Favorite Current Tiger(s) : Dontrelle Willis, Brandon Inge, Maggs, Verlander, Granderson, Pudge and Todd Jones Reputation : 9 Registration date : 2007-10-06
| Subject: Re: FIRE MILLEN! Sat Jan 05, 2008 12:29 am | |
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gs78 Detroit Tiger
Number of posts : 27687 Age : 46 Location : Trashy Park Michigan Favorite Current Tiger(s) : Dontrelle Willis, Brandon Inge, Maggs, Verlander, Granderson, Pudge and Todd Jones Reputation : 9 Registration date : 2007-10-06
| Subject: Re: FIRE MILLEN! Sat Jan 05, 2008 12:29 am | |
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gs78 Detroit Tiger
Number of posts : 27687 Age : 46 Location : Trashy Park Michigan Favorite Current Tiger(s) : Dontrelle Willis, Brandon Inge, Maggs, Verlander, Granderson, Pudge and Todd Jones Reputation : 9 Registration date : 2007-10-06
| Subject: Re: FIRE MILLEN! Sat Jan 05, 2008 12:29 am | |
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gs78 Detroit Tiger
Number of posts : 27687 Age : 46 Location : Trashy Park Michigan Favorite Current Tiger(s) : Dontrelle Willis, Brandon Inge, Maggs, Verlander, Granderson, Pudge and Todd Jones Reputation : 9 Registration date : 2007-10-06
| Subject: Re: FIRE MILLEN! Sat Jan 05, 2008 2:10 am | |
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gs78 Detroit Tiger
Number of posts : 27687 Age : 46 Location : Trashy Park Michigan Favorite Current Tiger(s) : Dontrelle Willis, Brandon Inge, Maggs, Verlander, Granderson, Pudge and Todd Jones Reputation : 9 Registration date : 2007-10-06
| Subject: Re: FIRE MILLEN! Sat Jan 05, 2008 3:00 am | |
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gs78 Detroit Tiger
Number of posts : 27687 Age : 46 Location : Trashy Park Michigan Favorite Current Tiger(s) : Dontrelle Willis, Brandon Inge, Maggs, Verlander, Granderson, Pudge and Todd Jones Reputation : 9 Registration date : 2007-10-06
| Subject: Re: FIRE MILLEN! Sat Jan 05, 2008 3:08 am | |
| They are the joke of the NFL! | |
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gs78 Detroit Tiger
Number of posts : 27687 Age : 46 Location : Trashy Park Michigan Favorite Current Tiger(s) : Dontrelle Willis, Brandon Inge, Maggs, Verlander, Granderson, Pudge and Todd Jones Reputation : 9 Registration date : 2007-10-06
| Subject: Re: FIRE MILLEN! Sat Jan 05, 2008 3:17 am | |
| 50 years and counting since the Lions last Championship | |
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gs78 Detroit Tiger
Number of posts : 27687 Age : 46 Location : Trashy Park Michigan Favorite Current Tiger(s) : Dontrelle Willis, Brandon Inge, Maggs, Verlander, Granderson, Pudge and Todd Jones Reputation : 9 Registration date : 2007-10-06
| Subject: Re: FIRE MILLEN! Sat Jan 05, 2008 3:18 am | |
| You would have to be at least 55 years old to remember it | |
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gs78 Detroit Tiger
Number of posts : 27687 Age : 46 Location : Trashy Park Michigan Favorite Current Tiger(s) : Dontrelle Willis, Brandon Inge, Maggs, Verlander, Granderson, Pudge and Todd Jones Reputation : 9 Registration date : 2007-10-06
| Subject: Re: FIRE MILLEN! Sat Jan 05, 2008 3:19 am | |
| Lions probably won't win one the next 50 years | |
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GoGetEmTigers DTF1 ADMINISTRATOR Detroit Tiger
Number of posts : 57424 Age : 65 Location : Eastern Ohio, near Wheeling WV Favorite Current Tiger(s) : JV, Hunter, Jackson, Porcello, Avila (really ALL of em!) Reputation : 20 Registration date : 2007-10-05
| Subject: Re: FIRE MILLEN! Sat Jan 05, 2008 6:59 pm | |
| Might as well lock this too. | |
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gs78 Detroit Tiger
Number of posts : 27687 Age : 46 Location : Trashy Park Michigan Favorite Current Tiger(s) : Dontrelle Willis, Brandon Inge, Maggs, Verlander, Granderson, Pudge and Todd Jones Reputation : 9 Registration date : 2007-10-06
| Subject: Re: FIRE MILLEN! Sun Jan 06, 2008 3:22 am | |
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gs78 Detroit Tiger
Number of posts : 27687 Age : 46 Location : Trashy Park Michigan Favorite Current Tiger(s) : Dontrelle Willis, Brandon Inge, Maggs, Verlander, Granderson, Pudge and Todd Jones Reputation : 9 Registration date : 2007-10-06
| Subject: Re: FIRE MILLEN! Sun Jan 06, 2008 3:23 am | |
| Least we got the Pistons, Red Wings and Tigers! | |
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