2008 Election Results Thread

gs78 wrote:

How Liberal do you want it Catbox?
Her, Reid, Obama
AKA The Three Stooges
Are running the country

I should clarify what I mean by calling myself a hardcore liberal. I'll admit, I don't know a whole lot about economics so I have a hard time figuring out what's best there. On social issues I am about 99.99% liberal. When we aren't talking economics liberal social agenda harms nobody and will have no effect whatsoever on people who want to be ultra-right-wing social conservatives.

Since I'm so liberal that way and don't really know/care on the economic issues I figure why not go with the party that I like on issues I do understand/care about?

catbox_9 wrote:

gs78 wrote:

How Liberal do you want it Catbox?
Her, Reid, Obama
AKA The Three Stooges
Are running the country

I should clarify what I mean by calling myself a hardcore liberal. I'll admit, I don't know a whole lot about economics so I have a hard time figuring out what's best there. On social issues I am about 99.99% liberal. When we aren't talking economics liberal social agenda harms nobody and will have no effect whatsoever on people who want to be ultra-right-wing social conservatives.

Since I'm so liberal that way and don't really know/care on the economic issues I figure why not go with the party that I like on issues I do understand/care about?

Ron Paul is the best candidate


Economics Wise


Check him out on YouTube.com

catbox_9 wrote:

gs78 wrote:

How Liberal do you want it Catbox?
Her, Reid, Obama
AKA The Three Stooges
Are running the country

I should clarify what I mean by calling myself a hardcore liberal. I'll admit, I don't know a whole lot about economics so I have a hard time figuring out what's best there. On social issues I am about 99.99% liberal. When we aren't talking economics liberal social agenda harms nobody and will have no effect whatsoever on people who want to be ultra-right-wing social conservatives.

Since I'm so liberal that way and don't really know/care on the economic issues I figure why not go with the party that I like on issues I do understand/care about?

The problem with people that favor social issues is that they tend to think the American Taxpayer is a blank checkbook


The buck has to stop somewhere

gs78 wrote:

catbox_9 wrote:

gs78 wrote:

How Liberal do you want it Catbox?
Her, Reid, Obama
AKA The Three Stooges
Are running the country

I should clarify what I mean by calling myself a hardcore liberal. I'll admit, I don't know a whole lot about economics so I have a hard time figuring out what's best there. On social issues I am about 99.99% liberal. When we aren't talking economics liberal social agenda harms nobody and will have no effect whatsoever on people who want to be ultra-right-wing social conservatives.

Since I'm so liberal that way and don't really know/care on the economic issues I figure why not go with the party that I like on issues I do understand/care about?

The problem with people that favor social issues is that they tend to think the American Taxpayer is a blank checkbook


The buck has to stop somewhere

Now you're combining economics with social issues. When you stick to strictly social issues money isn't required. Take gay marriage - if two men or two women get married, taxpayers pay absolutely nothing. Now one could argue that they are only getting married for financial gain (only one has insurance, etc.) but straight couples could do this, too and where are the protesters at straight weddings where only one partner has health insurance?

Maybe that wacky Church in Kansas might protest it


They protest Funerals labeled dead soldiers as homosexual


Maybe they can protest military weddings tooo



I don't know!

It sure seems like a WPA-program needs to go into effect. Something that would focus on alternative energy, road building, bridge reinforcing, and computer security!

I'm a little late on posting in this as the election was over about a week ago. But YEAH OBAMA!!!! I felt sorry for Mccain though. As for my local issues I didn't really pay attention to them. I did vote to raise the room tax for motels and hotels to help schools and it passed. I voted against raising sales tax for schools though and it didn't pass. I hate California even more than before now. I can't believe they passed prop.8

I can't believe Obama won!

Y'all better hope he doesn't pass a National Healthcare system, or we're all gonna be royally screwed up the ass. And taxes....get ready to pay even MORE in taxes than we did under Clinton...Obama is already talking increasing the highest tax from 35% to 39 1/2%. Can you say major lay-offs and jobs moving to Mexico or China? We're going to be living in the USSA! Time to get

Obama plans on stopping the outsourcing of our jobs to other countries so how are our jobs going to be moving to Mexico and China? If his plan is correct then my taxes won't go up at all. He can't do any worse than Bush. When you're already at the bottom you can't go anywhere but up.

kharmon wrote:

Obama plans on stopping the outsourcing of our jobs to other countries so how are our jobs going to be moving to Mexico and China? If his plan is correct then my taxes won't go up at all. He can't do any worse than Bush. When you're already at the bottom you can't go anywhere but up.

His plan is full of crap. I've already explained how your taxes will inevidibly go up in 2010 when the Bush tax cuts expire. All Obama is going to do is allow for a few more exemptions or credits. Everyone's taxes will go up. Also...if he taxes businesses more, then a lot of places will lay-off workers or move manufacturing jobs "overseas" or to Mexico.

Obama is offering a lousy $3000 credit to companies that hire more employees, but when it costs that employer $35,000 to hire someone, that $3000 credit doesn't mean jack squat. Plus...Obama wants to raise the minimum wage to $9.00/hr. Get ready for $5.00 a gallon for milk! Ohio raised the minimum wage, and as soon as they did, the price of everything went up by about $1.00. Pretty sad when a gallon of milk costs more than a pack of cigarettes.

If you really think we're at the bottom under Bush....you ain't seen nothin' yet. But, it's ok....I'll still be around the next 4 years to say "I tried to warn y'all, but no one would listen to reason and logic."

All the Bush administration did was put this country in an unnecessary war(s), ruin public education, and run the economy into the ground.

I am all for any Kool-aid that Obama wants to feed me.

catbox_9 wrote:

BREAKING NEWS:

For the first time, Proposition 1A is ahead in the polls!

Proposition 1A would fund construction of high-speed rail form Los Angeles to San Francisco. The 6.5 hour drive would take 2.5 hours in the proposed train and tickets would cost $50 (gas for an average car costs $76 for the same trip).

Yeah, the voters here in Florida voted overwhelmingly several years ago to approve a high-speed rail from Tampa to Orlando, with Disneyworld being the obvious benefactor.

Jeb Bush (in his infinite wisdom) had the project "cancelled" because it was taking money from HIS pet projects.

How can a Governor "overrule" the voters??

That guy is no good, just like his bro....

Ohios#1TigerFan wrote:

kharmon wrote:

Obama plans on stopping the outsourcing of our jobs to other countries so how are our jobs going to be moving to Mexico and China? If his plan is correct then my taxes won't go up at all. He can't do any worse than Bush. When you're already at the bottom you can't go anywhere but up.

His plan is full of crap. I've already explained how your taxes will inevidibly go up in 2010 when the Bush tax cuts expire. All Obama is going to do is allow for a few more exemptions or credits. Everyone's taxes will go up. Also...if he taxes businesses more, then a lot of places will lay-off workers or move manufacturing jobs "overseas" or to Mexico.

Obama is offering a lousy $3000 credit to companies that hire more employees, but when it costs that employer $35,000 to hire someone, that $3000 credit doesn't mean jack squat. Plus...Obama wants to raise the minimum wage to $9.00/hr. Get ready for $5.00 a gallon for milk! Ohio raised the minimum wage, and as soon as they did, the price of everything went up by about $1.00. Pretty sad when a gallon of milk costs more than a pack of cigarettes.

If you really think we're at the bottom under Bush....you ain't seen nothin' yet. But, it's ok....I'll still be around the next 4 years to say "I tried to warn y'all, but no one would listen to reason and logic."

What are you talking about. Our jobs are already shipped oversees. Obama is going to put an end to that. Food prices and milk prices have been going up and the min. wage has stayed the same pretty much everywhere. There is no connection there. There is no point complaining about it now. The majority of the voters in the united states have already spoken and the majority wants Obama. Case closed. I did listen to reason and logic thank you very much and that's why I voted for Obama, our next President.

tigersaint wrote:

All the Bush administration did was put this country in an unnecessary war(s), ruin public education, and run the economy into the ground.

I am all for any Kool-aid that Obama wants to feed me.

I rather drink beer

Ohios#1TigerFan wrote:

kharmon wrote:

Obama plans on stopping the outsourcing of our jobs to other countries so how are our jobs going to be moving to Mexico and China? If his plan is correct then my taxes won't go up at all. He can't do any worse than Bush. When you're already at the bottom you can't go anywhere but up.

His plan is full of crap. I've already explained how your taxes will inevidibly go up in 2010 when the Bush tax cuts expire. All Obama is going to do is allow for a few more exemptions or credits. Everyone's taxes will go up. Also...if he taxes businesses more, then a lot of places will lay-off workers or move manufacturing jobs "overseas" or to Mexico.

Obama is offering a lousy $3000 credit to companies that hire more employees, but when it costs that employer $35,000 to hire someone, that $3000 credit doesn't mean jack squat. Plus...Obama wants to raise the minimum wage to $9.00/hr. Get ready for $5.00 a gallon for milk! Ohio raised the minimum wage, and as soon as they did, the price of everything went up by about $1.00. Pretty sad when a gallon of milk costs more than a pack of cigarettes.

If you really think we're at the bottom under Bush....you ain't seen nothin' yet. But, it's ok....I'll still be around the next 4 years to say "I tried to warn y'all, but no one would listen to reason and logic."

I needed you on the other board so bad

I tried pointing that out last week

Among other things


I am banned from MLB.com

Ohios#1TigerFan wrote:

I can't believe Obama won!

Y'all better hope he doesn't pass a National Healthcare system, or we're all gonna be royally screwed up the ass. And taxes....get ready to pay even MORE in taxes than we did under Clinton...Obama is already talking increasing the highest tax from 35% to 39 1/2%. Can you say major lay-offs and jobs moving to Mexico or China? We're going to be living in the USSA! Time to get

I can believe he won


Between the Liberal Media

And McCain transforming into Bob Dole

Circa 1996


I am not surprised

kharmon wrote:

Ohios#1TigerFan wrote:

kharmon wrote:

Obama plans on stopping the outsourcing of our jobs to other countries so how are our jobs going to be moving to Mexico and China? If his plan is correct then my taxes won't go up at all. He can't do any worse than Bush. When you're already at the bottom you can't go anywhere but up.

His plan is full of crap. I've already explained how your taxes will inevidibly go up in 2010 when the Bush tax cuts expire. All Obama is going to do is allow for a few more exemptions or credits. Everyone's taxes will go up. Also...if he taxes businesses more, then a lot of places will lay-off workers or move manufacturing jobs "overseas" or to Mexico.

Obama is offering a lousy $3000 credit to companies that hire more employees, but when it costs that employer $35,000 to hire someone, that $3000 credit doesn't mean jack squat. Plus...Obama wants to raise the minimum wage to $9.00/hr. Get ready for $5.00 a gallon for milk! Ohio raised the minimum wage, and as soon as they did, the price of everything went up by about $1.00. Pretty sad when a gallon of milk costs more than a pack of cigarettes.

If you really think we're at the bottom under Bush....you ain't seen nothin' yet. But, it's ok....I'll still be around the next 4 years to say "I tried to warn y'all, but no one would listen to reason and logic."

What are you talking about. Our jobs are already shipped oversees. Obama is going to put an end to that. Food prices and milk prices have been going up and the min. wage has stayed the same pretty much everywhere. There is no connection there. There is no point complaining about it now. The majority of the voters in the united states have already spoken and the majority wants Obama. Case closed. I did listen to reason and logic thank you very much and that's why I voted for Obama, our next President.

Well...first and foremost...Obama has no right to stop business from moving overseas. If Nike wants to open a new factory in China, they can, and there's not a thing the President can do about it. Secondly, in 2007, Ohioans (not me...but the majority of them) voted to increase the minimum wage. A month later, prices started going up across the board. It's all a part of Economics 101...when employers are forced to pay their employees more, they pass the cost on to the consumers by way of higher prices. The ones that "benefited" from the increased minimum wage, are now finding it didn't help them at all because everything now costs more that it did before.

I could go on and on about the damage Obama is going to do to this country...but I won't. I'm going to sit back and enjoy the collapse, and when everyone who voted for him is complaining that things are going to hell in a handbasket, and that he lied to them and not keeping his campaign promises..I'm going to laugh my ass off. People were too blinded by the smoke he was blowing up their ass to see the truth.

gs78 wrote:

tigersaint wrote:

All the Bush administration did was put this country in an unnecessary war(s), ruin public education, and run the economy into the ground.

I am all for any Kool-aid that Obama wants to feed me.

I rather drink beer

You and me both!!!

tigersaint wrote:

How can a Governor "overrule" the voters??

WTF? Maybe our governor will overrule proposition 8? He said he was against it. Last time I checked governors couldn't do that but I guess Bush can do whatever he wants regardless of which one it is.

tigersaint wrote:

All the Bush administration did was put this country in an unnecessary war(s), ruin public education, and run the economy into the ground.

I am all for any Kool-aid that Obama wants to feed me.

btw...Welcome back Saint! You'll be happy to know that since we talked last...I'm doing my part to improve our educational system...I changed my major! Now majoring in Adolescent/Young Adult Education! My area of specialty is Math, but I'm thinking about including English, Science, and Social studies.

Jeb Bush for President in 2012

I'd rather have Palin than Jeb in 2012! The media made Sarah look dumb..... which she is not. A bunch f the stuff they complained about were not even true!.

She is smart enough to make Alaska a "citizens own mineral rights" state, and the oil companies have to pay for pumping oil. Each Alaskan gets $1,200 per year in payment for oil from the state fund that charges the oil companies! Smart system.

Not that it matters much, but they are now declaring Obama the winner of Nebraska's 2nd Congressional district. For the first time ever a state has split its vote.

NOTE: States have split their votes plenty of times when the electors vote, but this is the first time they are supposed to split the vote.

I'm thinking Bobby Jindal for some office in 2012!

I'm not.

catbox_9 wrote:

I'm not.

Yes, I know...

laprimamirala wrote:

catbox_9 wrote:

I'm not.

Yes, I know...

My problem with him....right after his first term started there was a huge drive to get him recalled. That's not typical.

I'm not saying I favor him, we'll just probably see more of him in the coming years. Of course it was not cool to break a campaign promise to veto a legislative pay raise, hence the recall.

All this election talk

Makes me feel worse