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GoGetEmTigers DTF1 ADMINISTRATOR Detroit Tiger
Number of posts : 57424 Age : 65 Location : Eastern Ohio, near Wheeling WV Favorite Current Tiger(s) : JV, Hunter, Jackson, Porcello, Avila (really ALL of em!) Reputation : 20 Registration date : 2007-10-05
| Subject: Writer: Tigers could trade Jackson, Granderson, Laird or Cabrera Mon Dec 07, 2009 8:42 am | |
| Posted: Dec. 7, 2009 Writer: Tigers could trade Jackson, Granderson, Laird or Cabrera
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The winter meetings open today, and it could be a busy week for the Tigers.
General manager Dave Dombrowski needs to find a way to fill the team's needs and sign arbitration-eligible players without further bloating the payroll. If they can get young talent or prospects in return on trades, they're going to consider it, says Jason Beck of MLB.com
Here's who Beck says the Tigers can or need to trade:
RHP Edwin Jackson: "Of all the Tigers who have been mentioned as available in trades, Jackson is by many indications the most likely to go. With starting pitching always in demand, Detroit probably can find a trading partner who will eventually approach their demands."
CF Curtis Granderson: "His personality and presence in the community make him a fan favorite, he's an offensive catalyst when he's on, and Detroit doesn't have a clear-cut successor in center or at leadoff. But his strengths also are the reasons that make him so popular to teams looking for outfield help, and give the Tigers the potential to net a valuable package of young talent in return."
C Gerald Laird: "His ability to shut down an opponent's running game was a major benefit for an improved Tigers pitching staff, but his offensive contribution was low enough that the Tigers brought up rookie Alex Avila from Double-A to provide a bat. ... A third-time arbitration-eligible player, Laird could make well over $3 million for what could amount to a platoon with Avila, whom the Tigers see as the eventual starter. ... A team with a better offense might be drawn to make a deal."
1B Miguel Cabrera: "If somebody's willing to offer them a lucrative package of talent, they would at least have to listen." | |
| | | gdennis59 Detroit Tiger
Number of posts : 7415 Age : 31 Location : Akron, Ohio Favorite Current Tiger(s) : Todd Jones, Miguel Cabrera, Jeremy Bonderman, Max Scherzer, Scott Sizemore Reputation : 13 Registration date : 2008-03-25
| Subject: Re: Writer: Tigers could trade Jackson, Granderson, Laird or Cabrera Mon Dec 07, 2009 6:13 pm | |
| If anyone, I say Laird, unless we REALLY get good stuff for Jackson. | |
| | | GoGetEmTigers DTF1 ADMINISTRATOR Detroit Tiger
Number of posts : 57424 Age : 65 Location : Eastern Ohio, near Wheeling WV Favorite Current Tiger(s) : JV, Hunter, Jackson, Porcello, Avila (really ALL of em!) Reputation : 20 Registration date : 2007-10-05
| Subject: Re: Writer: Tigers could trade Jackson, Granderson, Laird or Cabrera Mon Dec 07, 2009 11:42 pm | |
| Jackson, Granderson popular targets Trading one or both could help Tigers fill needs
By Jason Beck / MLB.com
12/07/09 8:40 PM EST
INDIANAPOLIS -- One thing seems certain: Edwin Jackson seems to be heading for a move soon. Where he's going is another question. Whether Curtis Granderson joins him is another.
Tigers president/general manager Dave Dombrowski didn't have to mention either one by name when he talked about his discussions Monday to reflect how much interest was building in Jackson and Granderson as the Winter Meetings began.
"We are much more open-minded to talk about things than we had been in the past," Dombrowski said Monday evening.
The Tigers are talking about enough things that they set the tone for baseball's rumor mill as the meetings roll on. A report from USA Today early Monday afternoon suggested a deal involving Jackson was close. Another rumor later in the day from another publication suggested a deal was done with the Mets, a rumor that was quickly denied.
While the D-backs had discussions with the Tigers on Jackson, a FOXSports.com report included the Mariners and Angels among teams interested in Jackson, with the Halos also interested in Granderson. One industry source suggested the Yankees had a deal in place for Jackson, a report that proved premature. Given their outfield needs, they could have interest in Granderson, too.
"We're talking about a lot of different things right now," Dombrowski said Monday evening. "We anticipated having a lot of conversations, and we have done that, even in the short time period."
By Monday evening, as Dombrowski spoke, it became clear that the Tigers were weighing a lot of interest during an opening day that he characterized as "more intensified" than most, both in number of conversations and in depth.
As far as any deal being imminent, however, Dombrowski indicated team officials were weighing their options while also making their own demands on what they expect.
"I don't know if we're close to a trade or not," Dombrowski said. "I don't really know that. Somebody might call us up and say, 'You've got a deal.' And I'm not just talking about [Jackson] specifically; I'm talking about any player or a few players we're talking about.
"But we have had a lot of conversations. I would also not be shocked if I sat here [later in the week] and told you that nothing did happen."
At this point, the latter would be quite a surprise to everyone gathered here.
The Tigers came into the Winter Meetings saying they will not make a deal simply to clear payroll, and they continue to suggest that. They continue to look for young talent that can help them now and in the future, and Dombrowski insists that they will not give up on 2010 as they look toward the future.
However, while the Tigers don't discuss it, there's also a realization that the economy in Michigan is forcing the team to adjust, even as Detroit awaits expiring contracts that could take more than $50 million off the payroll for 2011. Even if the Tigers trade Jackson and Granderson, their '10 payroll will sit well above $100 million.
Fire sale or not -- and Dombrowski, who knows about having to sell off players from his days as the GM in Montreal and Florida -- it certainly isn't business as usual.
"We've been more open-minded to talk about different things than in the past," Dombrowski reiterated. "A lot of times, you don't even entertain those questions. A couple years ago, we tried to get one specific piece, which was a shortstop, which didn't work out very well for us. We weren't looking to move anybody. We just tried to add Edgar Renteria. It didn't work for us.
"Last year was a different approach for us. We kind of filled in guys with one-year [contracts] here, one-year [contracts] there, and we had a better club."
Now, it's clearly a different direction again. And with all 30 front offices represented in the same town, Detroit's two most appealing trade pieces are building interest.
Jackson remains the most likely Tigers player to be traded. Just 26 years old, he's coming off a breakout season that earned him an All-Star spot and kept the team in some low-scoring battles. However, his second consecutive second-half fade raised concerns within the organization about his long-term success. He's also on track for free agency in two years, and with Scott Boras as his agent, he won't be easy to re-sign if those two years are good ones.
Indications over the weekend suggested Detroit could be cooling on trading Granderson, possibly out of public reaction. That doesn't mean, however, the team has stopped listening to interest, which has seemingly built in the days since free-agent speedster Chone Figgins reached a reported deal with Seattle. While several teams have reason for interest in Granderson, that doesn't mean they're willing to meet the asking price.
The Angels are a logical destination, given their newfound need for a leadoff hitter. However, they're expected to use prospect Brandon Wood in Figgins' place at third base, removing a potentially enticing piece from consideration. Their strength lies in two young catchers in Jeff Mathis and Mike Napoli, along with prospect Hank Conger.
Any interest from the Cubs seemingly would hinge on their ability to trade Milton Bradley and open a spot in the outfield for incumbent center fielder Kosuke Fukudome to move to right. However, Chicago would appear unlikely to give up a prospect-laden package that would include shortstop Starlin Castro.
The Tigers, however, still say they won't sell off without a good return. The bidding on that front appears to have begun.
"The deals that we have kicked around so far, we feel good [about] making from a baseball sense," Dombrowski said. "And I don't know if they'll happen or not."
Jason Beck is a reporter for MLB.com. This story was not subject to the approval of Major League Baseball or its clubs. | |
| | | bobrob2004 DTF1 MODERATOR Detroit Tiger
Number of posts : 10646 Age : 39 Location : Warren, MI Reputation : 12 Registration date : 2007-10-05
| Subject: Re: Writer: Tigers could trade Jackson, Granderson, Laird or Cabrera Tue Dec 08, 2009 1:29 am | |
| Apparently there's a 3-team deal in the works involving the Diamondbacks and Yankees. The deal would invlove Edwin Jackson going to the Diamondbacks and Curtis Granderson going to the Yankees. The Tigers would get Max Scherzer, Austin Jackson, Phil Coke and some dude named Mike Dunn.
I say go for it. | |
| | | gdennis59 Detroit Tiger
Number of posts : 7415 Age : 31 Location : Akron, Ohio Favorite Current Tiger(s) : Todd Jones, Miguel Cabrera, Jeremy Bonderman, Max Scherzer, Scott Sizemore Reputation : 13 Registration date : 2008-03-25
| Subject: Re: Writer: Tigers could trade Jackson, Granderson, Laird or Cabrera Tue Dec 08, 2009 10:49 pm | |
| Damn. bobrob. I need your source badd. | |
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