GDT 10/6/09 - DET (86-76) AT MIN (86-76) - 5:07 p.m. ET

B:1 S:1 O:2 -
Brandon Inge doubles (16) on a line drive to left fielder Delmon Young. Don Kelly scores.
DET 5, MIN 4



B:0 S:0 O:3 -
Gerald Laird grounds out, second baseman Nick Punto to first baseman Michael Cuddyer.

DET 5, MIN 4 after 9.5 innings

Bottom Half

B:0 S:0 O:0 -
Defensive Substitution: Clete Thomas replaces right fielder Magglio Ordonez, batting 3rd, playing right field.

B:0 S:0 O:0 -
Don Kelly remains in the game as the designated hitter.

B:2 S:2 O:0 -
Michael Cuddyer triples (7) on a soft fly ball to center fielder Curtis Granderson, deflected by left fielder Ryan Raburn.

Rodney, pitch, not power throw!

B:0 S:0 O:1 -
Delmon Young grounds out, shortstop Adam Everett to first baseman Miguel Cabrera.

B:4 S:1 O:1 -
Brendan Harris walks.

B:0 S:0 O:1 -
Offensive Substitution: Pinch runner Alexi Casilla replaces Brendan Harris.

B:0 S:0 O:1 -
Coaching visit to mound.

B:0 S:2 O:1 - Matt Tolbert singles on a ground ball to
center fielder Curtis Granderson. Michael Cuddyer scores. Alexi Casilla
to 3rd.
DET 5, MIN 5

B:1 S:2 O:3 - Nick Punto lines into double play, left
fielder Ryan Raburn to catcher Gerald Laird. Alexi Casilla out at home
on the throw.

DET 5, MIN 5 after 10 innings

Inning 11
Top Half

B:0 S:0 O:0 -
Alexi Casilla remains in the game as the designated hitter.

B:1 S:3 O:1 -
Adam Everett swinging.

B:0 S:0 O:1 -
Coaching visit to mound.

B:0 S:0 O:1 -
Pitcher Change: Ron Mahay replaces Jesse Crain.

B:1 S:3 O:2 -
Curtis Granderson swinging.

B:1 S:3 O:2 -
Coaching visit to mound.

B:0 S:0 O:2 -
Pitcher Change: Bob Keppel replaces Ron Mahay.

Thank you Raburn!

B:0 S:0 O:2 -
Coaching visit to mound.

B:1 S:2 O:3 -
Placido Polanco lines out to second baseman Nick Punto.

DET 5, MIN 5 after 10.5 innings

Bottom Half

B:0 S:1 O:1 -
Denard Span flies out softly to center fielder Curtis Granderson.

B:2 S:3 O:2 -
Orlando Cabrera called out on strikes.

B:0 S:0 O:3 -
Joe Mauer grounds out, second baseman Placido Polanco to first baseman Miguel Cabrera.

DET 5, MIN 5 after 11 innings

Inning 12
Top Half

B:1 S:1 O:1 -
Clete Thomas lines out to center fielder Carlos Gomez.

B:4 S:2 O:1 -
Miguel Cabrera walks.

B:1 S:1 O:1 -
Don Kelly singles on a line drive to left fielder Delmon Young. Miguel Cabrera to 3rd. Don Kelly to 2nd on the throw.

B:4 S:0 O:1 -
Bob Keppel intentionally walks Ryan Raburn.

B:0 S:0 O:1 -
Coaching visit to mound.

ball hits Inge's shirt, but not called a hit by pitch...

come on Inge, make them pay for that!

B:2 S:2 O:2 - Brandon Inge grounds into a force out,
second baseman Nick Punto to catcher Joe Mauer. Miguel Cabrera out at
home. Don Kelly to 3rd. Ryan Raburn to 2nd. Brandon Inge to 1st.

GoGetEmTigers wrote:

ball hits Inge's shirt, but not called a hit by pitch...

Deciding factor much? Fucking umpires against the Tigers.

Should have PH Avila.

B:3 S:3 O:3 -
Gerald Laird swinging. (on a darn ball 4)

DET 5, MIN 5 after 11.5 innings

gdennis59 wrote:

Should have PH Avila.

for sure!

Bottom Half

B:1 S:1 O:0 -
Carlos Gomez singles on a ground ball to left fielder Ryan Raburn.

B:0 S:1 O:1 -
Michael Cuddyer grounds out, third baseman Brandon Inge to first baseman Miguel Cabrera. Carlos Gomez to 2nd.

B:4 S:0 O:1 -
Fernando Rodney intentionally walks Delmon Young.

B:1 S:1 O:1 -
Alexi Casilla singles on a ground ball to right fielder Clete Thomas. Carlos Gomez scores. Delmon Young to 2nd.
Tigers lose 5-6 in the 12th inning

Thanks for the crappy substitutions Mr Leyland.

October 6, 2009

	1	2	3	4	5	6	7	8	9	10	11	12		R	H	E
Detroit	0	0	3	0	0	0	0	1	0	1	0	0		5	12	1
Minnesota	0	0	1	0	0	1	2	0	0	1	0	1		6	12	0

Detroit AB- R-- H-- RBI- BB- SO- LOB -AVG- Granderson, CF 5 1 2 0 1 1 0 .249 Polanco, 2B 6 0 1 0 0 2 5 .285 Ordonez, RF 5 2 2 2 0 0 3 .310 --Thomas, C, RF 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 .240 Cabrera, M, 1B 5 1 2 2 1 0 0 .324 Guillen, C, DH 3 0 0 0 1 1 1 .242 --1-Ramirez, W, PR-DH 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .364 --a-Huff, A, PH-DH 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .241 --3-Kelly, PR-DH 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 .250 Raburn, LF 4 0 2 0 2 1 1 .291 Inge, 3B 5 0 1 1 1 0 8 .230 Laird, C 6 0 0 0 0 2 10 .225 Santiago, SS 4 0 1 0 0 0 1 .267 --2-Everett, PR-SS 1 0 0 0 0 1 0 .238 Totals 46 5 12 5 6 8 29 a-Hit by pitch for Ramirez, W in the 10th. 1-Ran for Guillen, C in the 8th. 2-Ran for Santiago in the 9th. 3-Ran for Huff, A in the 10th. BATTING 2B: Cabrera, M (34, Baker, S), Inge (16, Crain). HR: Cabrera, M (34, 3rd inning off Baker, S, 1 on, 2 out), Ordonez (9, 8th inning off Guerrier, 0 on, 0 out). TB: Granderson 2; Polanco; Ordonez 5; Cabrera, M 6; Kelly; Raburn 2; Inge 2; Santiago. RBI: Ordonez 2 (50), Cabrera, M 2 (103), Inge (84). 2-out RBI: Ordonez; Cabrera, M 2; Inge. Runners left in scoring position, 2 out: Laird 5; Polanco. GIDP: Laird. Team RISP: 2-for-13. Team LOB: 12. FIELDING E: Porcello (2, pickoff). Outfield assists: Raburn (Casilla, A at home). DP: (Raburn-Laird).		Minnesota AB- R-- H-- RBI- BB- SO- LOB- AVG Span, CF-RF 5 0 1 0 0 1 1 .311 Cabrera, O, SS 6 1 1 2 0 1 3 .284 Mauer, C 4 0 2 0 2 1 0 .365 Kubel, RF 4 1 1 1 0 1 4 .300 --Gomez, C, CF 2 1 1 0 0 0 2 .229 Cuddyer, 1B 5 1 1 0 1 1 2 .276 Young, D, LF 5 0 1 0 1 1 1 .284 Morales, J, DH 2 0 0 0 0 2 0 .311 --a-Harris, B, PH-DH 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 .261 --1-Casilla, A, PR-DH 1 0 1 1 0 0 0 .202 Tolbert, 3B 5 1 2 1 0 2 3 .232 Punto, 2B 4 1 1 0 1 1 3 .228 Totals 44 6 12 5 6 11 19 a-Hit by pitch for Morales, J in the 6th. 1-Ran for Harris, B in the 10th. BATTING 2B: Mauer (30, Porcello). 3B: Cuddyer (7, Rodney). HR: Kubel (28, 6th inning off Porcello, 0 on, 2 out), Cabrera, O (9, 7th inning off Miner, 1 on, 1 out). TB: Span; Cabrera, O 4; Mauer 3; Kubel 4; Gomez, C; Cuddyer 3; Young, D; Casilla, A; Tolbert 2; Punto. RBI: Kubel (103), Cabrera, O 2 (77), Tolbert (19), Casilla, A (17). 2-out RBI: Kubel. Runners left in scoring position, 2 out: Kubel 2; Tolbert 2; Gomez, C. S: Span. Team RISP: 2-for-10. Team LOB: 12. FIELDING DP: 2 (Tolbert-Punto-Cuddyer, Cabrera, O-Cuddyer).
Detroit IP-- H- R- ER- BB- SO- HR- ERA Porcello 5.2 4 2 1 2 8 1 3.96 Miner (BS, 4) 0.2 4 2 2 0 1 1 4.29 Ni 0.1 0 0 0 0 0 0 2.61 Lyon 1.2 0 0 0 1 1 0 2.86 Rodney (L, 2-5) 3.0 4 2 2 3 1 0 4.40		Minnesota IP-- H- R- ER- BB- SO- HR- ERA Baker, S 6.0 6 3 3 2 2 1 4.37 Rauch 0.2 0 0 0 0 0 0 3.60 Mijares, Jo 0.0 1 0 0 0 0 0 2.34 Guerrier 0.2 1 1 1 2 0 1 2.36 Nathan 1.2 2 0 0 0 2 0 2.10 Crain 1.1 1 1 1 0 2 0 4.70 Mahay 0.1 0 0 0 0 1 0 4.29 Keppel (W, 1-1) 1.1 1 0 0 2 1 0 4.83
Baker, S pitched to 1 batter in the 7th. Mijares, Jo pitched to 1 batter in the 7th. IBB: Mauer (by Rodney), Young, D (by Rodney), Raburn (by Keppel). HBP: Harris, B (by Miner), Huff, A (by Crain). Pitches-strikes: Porcello 92-59, Miner 23-15, Ni 4-3, Lyon 26-18, Rodney 48-28, Baker, S 91-59, Rauch 4-3, Mijares, Jo 7-4, Guerrier 22-11, Nathan 21-14, Crain 16-12, Mahay 4-3, Keppel 33-17. Groundouts-flyouts: Porcello 4-5, Miner 0-1, Ni 0-1, Lyon 4-0, Rodney 5-2, Baker, S 5-11, Rauch 0-2, Mijares, Jo 0-0, Guerrier 2-0, Nathan 0-2, Crain 2-0, Mahay 0-0, Keppel 1-2. Batters faced: Porcello 23, Miner 7, Ni 1, Lyon 6, Rodney 15, Baker, S 25, Rauch 2, Mijares, Jo 1, Guerrier 5, Nathan 6, Crain 6, Mahay 1, Keppel 7. Inherited runners-scored: Miner 1-0, Ni 1-0, Lyon 1-0, Rodney 1-0, Rauch 1-0, Mijares, Jo 1-0, Guerrier 2-0, Nathan 2-0. Umpires: HP: Randy Marsh. 1B: Dale Scott. 2B: Jerry Layne. 3B: Gary Cederstrom. LF: Fieldin Culbreth. RF: Bruce Dreckman. Weather: 68 degrees, dome. Wind: Indoors. T: 4:37. Att: 54,088. October 6, 2009

A CLOSER CLOSES THE GAME! THEY DO NOT PITCH THREE INNINGS!

WHEN A PITCH HITS SOMEONE, THEY GET WALKED. If he would have got walked, there would have been 1 out and we would have been 1 run up. Then if Avila still got out that would have only been the second out with the bases loaded, which would have brought the next batter up and we might have been able to build on the lead we should have had.

Lastly, YOU SHOULDN'T TAKE SOMEONE OUT OF THE GAME WHEN THE ARE DOING WELL!


This was such an upsetting game

I think Leyland made some bad decisions in this game. Once they say Laird was not batting well, they should have pinch hit Avila! I also think they pulled Porcello out too soon. He was still striking out batters, he actually had a season high 8 K's. I also think they kept Rodney in too long. He was still throwing 95 mph, but not with as much accuracy. And I am still pissed at 1) Laird swinging at ball 4 with the bases loaded! And 2) Inge being technically hit by a pitch, with bases loaded, and not being given the base!

But I will say the guys, for maybe the 1st time this season, played their tails off in this ballgame. Why they did not do that all year makes me mad. Hopefully they have all learned from this and will try their best next year!

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I still partially blame the batting coach for the bad offense this year. Leyland gives the excuse of, "it is up to the players to listen". Well, new Idea Leyland. We heard the same thing last year concerning the pitchers. Tigers get a good pitching coach who says "DO WHAT I SAY!" And bingo, the pitching staff responds. If the Tigers keep Lloyd, and he really knows what he is talking about, then he needs to get tough with the players. Instruct them on what they are doing wrong, and let them know that if they refuse to listen, then the Tigers refuse to let them play!

If Lloyd does not know what he is talking about, then get a coach who does and insists the players listen! No more coddling these high priced children!

I don't think dumping Inge is the answer. When he was healthy, earlier this year, he was a very good batter after he listened to Lloyd and changed his batting style. The second half slump is 90% injury related. Without a sound foundation, of strong pain free legs, it is hard to swing correctly. I say wait and see what a healthy Inge does, after getting his knees repaired, before dumping him. There is hardly any better fielding 3rd baseman out there than Brandon.

Everett also was good the 1st half of the season. Somebody needs to see what he was doing different in the 2nd half that lowered his success at the plate. Yet Everett is a very good Short Stop and loves playing in Detroit. If we do not have a farm system player ready, then I could see signing him again next year.

Laird is a good batter, when he is not over worked. When they brought up Avila, AND played him at least 40% of the time, Laird started batting better. But in the last several weeks, Leyland went back to overworking Laird, and down went his average. I am very happy with Laird as a catcher. He is the key ingredient in the success of our pitchers and nobody is better than him in shutting down the other team from stealing a base! No wonder they started calling him G-money!

I am not sure what was going on with Granderson. His batting and fielding went down hill this year. Hopefully he was just experiencing an off year. Again, I think a more forceful batting coach would help.

I think Maggs will be better next year. Once we found out what he was going through in his personal life, with his wife being sick with cancer, and him having to take care of the kids, all the while worrying about his wife... At the end of the year, without this troubling him, he was batting at an over .400 average! He ended the year with a .310 ave! And had had home runs in each his last 2 games.

I wish that Polly would come back next year at a reasonable salary. He still has at least 1 more very good year in him!

There are a whole boatload of folks who want us to dump Cabrera. I think this is crazy. I do not accept what he did, and I think the Tigers have handled the situation badly. He should have been sat for the Saturday game.

I think the Tigers need to send this man "child" a strong message by sending him to a rehab center to work on his drinking, anger, and marital problems. He also needs to be suspended next season, and fined by the team for his actions. If he refuses to work with the Tigers on correcting his problems, then take legal action concerning his contract, otherwise give them all a chance to work through his problems. He is not the first big time Tiger player to have these problems! It is just more reported on now in days.

This is just some of my thoughts...