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laprimamirala Detroit Tiger
Number of posts : 14194 Age : 63 Location : SE Michigan Favorite Current Tiger(s) : Magglio........:) Reputation : 11 Registration date : 2007-10-29
| Subject: No more Chief Wahoo for Indians Thu May 21, 2009 3:52 pm | |
| Wed May 20, 2009 10:50 am EDT
MLB pulls Chief Wahoo off Cleveland's '09 Stars and Stripes cap
Major League Baseball is rolling out a new round of Stars and Stripes caps for Memorial Day and it appears that they designed the lids with some common sense this time around. Please remember last season, when the first round of special hats included a stars-and-stripes emblazoned version of Chief Wahoo on Cleveland's cap. A mini-controversy erupted with most people agreeing that it probably wasn't a good idea to endorse the logo with the elements of the American flag and the ideals that it represents. This year, MLB is avoiding the firestorm completely and going with the alternative that I suggested, opting to modify the block 'C' cap Bill Clinton wore when throwing out the first pitch at Progressive Field in 1994. So is progress being made? Yes, but only slowly ... MLB.com still sells the '08 version. The caps cost $36.99 this year (up $2 from '08) and the usual "portion of the proceeds" will benefit the Welcome Back Veterans fund. But buyer beware if you're purchasing in the name of supporting our soldiers: Last year, MLB couldn't be bothered to define what they mean by "portion of the proceeds."
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laprimamirala Detroit Tiger
Number of posts : 14194 Age : 63 Location : SE Michigan Favorite Current Tiger(s) : Magglio........:) Reputation : 11 Registration date : 2007-10-29
| Subject: Re: No more Chief Wahoo for Indians Thu May 21, 2009 3:53 pm | |
| does this mean they are going to change the team name too? | |
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catbox_9 DTF1 ADMINISTRATOR Detroit Tiger
Number of posts : 22295 Age : 37 Location : Paso Robles, California Favorite Current Tiger(s) : Justin Verlander Reputation : 17 Registration date : 2007-10-05
| Subject: Re: No more Chief Wahoo for Indians Thu May 21, 2009 4:36 pm | |
| I think they're only changing the hat so that Chief Wahoo doesn't appear with an American flag on July 4. Other than that Chief Wahoo remains on the hat. | |
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gdennis59 Detroit Tiger
Number of posts : 7415 Age : 31 Location : Akron, Ohio Favorite Current Tiger(s) : Todd Jones, Miguel Cabrera, Jeremy Bonderman, Max Scherzer, Scott Sizemore Reputation : 13 Registration date : 2008-03-25
| Subject: Re: No more Chief Wahoo for Indians Thu May 21, 2009 4:39 pm | |
| Yeah, I doubt they would get rid of it permanently. | |
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laprimamirala Detroit Tiger
Number of posts : 14194 Age : 63 Location : SE Michigan Favorite Current Tiger(s) : Magglio........:) Reputation : 11 Registration date : 2007-10-29
| Subject: Re: No more Chief Wahoo for Indians Thu May 21, 2009 4:51 pm | |
| Right. I knew it was just for the stars and stripes logo. My point: when does the PC stop? | |
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catbox_9 DTF1 ADMINISTRATOR Detroit Tiger
Number of posts : 22295 Age : 37 Location : Paso Robles, California Favorite Current Tiger(s) : Justin Verlander Reputation : 17 Registration date : 2007-10-05
| Subject: Re: No more Chief Wahoo for Indians Thu May 21, 2009 5:17 pm | |
| Isn't plastering an American flag all over a logo kind of iffy though? I mean people probably wouldn't like it if Wal-Mart or McDonalds had their logo on an American flag. | |
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GoGetEmTigers DTF1 ADMINISTRATOR Detroit Tiger
Number of posts : 57424 Age : 65 Location : Eastern Ohio, near Wheeling WV Favorite Current Tiger(s) : JV, Hunter, Jackson, Porcello, Avila (really ALL of em!) Reputation : 20 Registration date : 2007-10-05
| Subject: Re: No more Chief Wahoo for Indians Thu May 21, 2009 5:41 pm | |
| Wed May 20, 2009 10:50 am EDT MLB pulls Chief Wahoo off Cleveland's '09 Stars and Stripes cap By 'Duk Major League Baseball is rolling out a new round of Stars and Stripes caps for Memorial Day and it appears that they designed the lids with some common sense this time around. Please remember last season, when the first round of special hats included a stars-and-stripes emblazoned version of Chief Wahoo on Cleveland's cap. A mini-controversy erupted with most people agreeing that it probably wasn't a good idea to endorse the logo with the elements of the American flag and the ideals that it represents. This year, MLB is avoiding the firestorm completely and going with the alternative that I suggested, opting to modify the block 'C' cap Bill Clinton wore when throwing out the first pitch at Progressive Field in 1994. So is progress being made? Yes, but only slowly ... MLB.com still sells the '08 version. To check out the new '09 red caps and some other Stars and Stripes wear, click here. The caps cost $36.99 this year (up $2 from '08) and sales will benefit the Welcome Back Veterans fund. Thankfully, MLB has finally somewhat defined the amount it's donating from each hat instead of leaving us completely in the dark like they did last year: "Major League Baseball Properties, Inc will donate all of the proceeds it receives from the sale of the caps to Welcome Back Veterans. In addition, MLB.com will donate an additional $1 to Welcome Back Veterans for each cap purchased through www.mlb.com." Here's a big BLS head nod to progress. | |
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gs78 Detroit Tiger
Number of posts : 27687 Age : 46 Location : Trashy Park Michigan Favorite Current Tiger(s) : Dontrelle Willis, Brandon Inge, Maggs, Verlander, Granderson, Pudge and Todd Jones Reputation : 9 Registration date : 2007-10-06
| Subject: Re: No more Chief Wahoo for Indians Thu May 21, 2009 7:24 pm | |
| Why can't they have Chief Wahoo?
So sick of this PC bullshit | |
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gs78 Detroit Tiger
Number of posts : 27687 Age : 46 Location : Trashy Park Michigan Favorite Current Tiger(s) : Dontrelle Willis, Brandon Inge, Maggs, Verlander, Granderson, Pudge and Todd Jones Reputation : 9 Registration date : 2007-10-06
| Subject: Re: No more Chief Wahoo for Indians Thu May 21, 2009 7:25 pm | |
| Next thing you know Cleveland will be changing their name like the Washington Bullets did in the NBA because of gun crimes in DC
I hate the name Wizards too
They may as well use the an image of Harry Potter dribbling a basketball or something as their logo
STUPID! | |
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catbox_9 DTF1 ADMINISTRATOR Detroit Tiger
Number of posts : 22295 Age : 37 Location : Paso Robles, California Favorite Current Tiger(s) : Justin Verlander Reputation : 17 Registration date : 2007-10-05
| Subject: Re: No more Chief Wahoo for Indians Thu May 21, 2009 7:45 pm | |
| - gs78 wrote:
- Why can't they have Chief Wahoo?
So sick of this PC bullshit They can keep him, they just can't have his logo turned into an American flag. | |
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gs78 Detroit Tiger
Number of posts : 27687 Age : 46 Location : Trashy Park Michigan Favorite Current Tiger(s) : Dontrelle Willis, Brandon Inge, Maggs, Verlander, Granderson, Pudge and Todd Jones Reputation : 9 Registration date : 2007-10-06
| Subject: Re: No more Chief Wahoo for Indians Thu May 21, 2009 7:55 pm | |
| - catbox_9 wrote:
- gs78 wrote:
- Why can't they have Chief Wahoo?
So sick of this PC bullshit They can keep him, they just can't have his logo turned into an American flag. Why not? If all the other team logos can be turned into an American Flag; they why not Chief Wahoo For that matter; why even have any logo turned into a flag Just another way for MLB make money off a national holiday | |
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catbox_9 DTF1 ADMINISTRATOR Detroit Tiger
Number of posts : 22295 Age : 37 Location : Paso Robles, California Favorite Current Tiger(s) : Justin Verlander Reputation : 17 Registration date : 2007-10-05
| Subject: Re: No more Chief Wahoo for Indians Thu May 21, 2009 8:47 pm | |
| - gs78 wrote:
- catbox_9 wrote:
- gs78 wrote:
- Why can't they have Chief Wahoo?
So sick of this PC bullshit They can keep him, they just can't have his logo turned into an American flag.
Why not?
If all the other team logos can be turned into an American Flag; they why not Chief Wahoo
For that matter; why even have any logo turned into a flag
Just another way for MLB make money off a national holiday I don't really care one way or another on this issue but I agree completely with your last point. There's all sorts of hats they want fans to buy...green one for St. Patrick's day, Patriotic ones for 7/4, alternate ones, home ones, away ones, batting practice home ones, batting practice away ones, pink ones for mother's day, blue ones for father's day, and probably a few more. | |
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GoGetEmTigers DTF1 ADMINISTRATOR Detroit Tiger
Number of posts : 57424 Age : 65 Location : Eastern Ohio, near Wheeling WV Favorite Current Tiger(s) : JV, Hunter, Jackson, Porcello, Avila (really ALL of em!) Reputation : 20 Registration date : 2007-10-05
| Subject: Re: No more Chief Wahoo for Indians Thu May 21, 2009 9:54 pm | |
| Here are the differences: Cleveland Indians Authentic 2009 Stars & Stripes Performance 59FIFTY On-Field Cap2008 version Cleveland Indians Authentic Stars & Stripes Performance 59FIFTY On-Field Cap:
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laprimamirala Detroit Tiger
Number of posts : 14194 Age : 63 Location : SE Michigan Favorite Current Tiger(s) : Magglio........:) Reputation : 11 Registration date : 2007-10-29
| Subject: Re: No more Chief Wahoo for Indians Fri May 22, 2009 7:55 am | |
| I was trying to do that but the addresses weren't copying correctly for some reason. | |
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catbox_9 DTF1 ADMINISTRATOR Detroit Tiger
Number of posts : 22295 Age : 37 Location : Paso Robles, California Favorite Current Tiger(s) : Justin Verlander Reputation : 17 Registration date : 2007-10-05
| Subject: Re: No more Chief Wahoo for Indians Fri May 22, 2009 2:23 pm | |
| I don't care for either version, but I think the 2009 version is slightly better...maybe. | |
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gs78 Detroit Tiger
Number of posts : 27687 Age : 46 Location : Trashy Park Michigan Favorite Current Tiger(s) : Dontrelle Willis, Brandon Inge, Maggs, Verlander, Granderson, Pudge and Todd Jones Reputation : 9 Registration date : 2007-10-06
| Subject: Re: No more Chief Wahoo for Indians Mon May 25, 2009 12:30 pm | |
| - catbox_9 wrote:
- gs78 wrote:
- catbox_9 wrote:
- gs78 wrote:
- Why can't they have Chief Wahoo?
So sick of this PC bullshit They can keep him, they just can't have his logo turned into an American flag.
Why not?
If all the other team logos can be turned into an American Flag; they why not Chief Wahoo
For that matter; why even have any logo turned into a flag
Just another way for MLB make money off a national holiday I don't really care one way or another on this issue but I agree completely with your last point. There's all sorts of hats they want fans to buy...green one for St. Patrick's day, Patriotic ones for 7/4, alternate ones, home ones, away ones, batting practice home ones, batting practice away ones, pink ones for mother's day, blue ones for father's day, and probably a few more. Imagine buying all those Tigers caps; There are dozens and dozens of caps You have to be as rich as Donald Trump You be spending a lot of money
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gs78 Detroit Tiger
Number of posts : 27687 Age : 46 Location : Trashy Park Michigan Favorite Current Tiger(s) : Dontrelle Willis, Brandon Inge, Maggs, Verlander, Granderson, Pudge and Todd Jones Reputation : 9 Registration date : 2007-10-06
| Subject: Re: No more Chief Wahoo for Indians Mon May 25, 2009 12:31 pm | |
| We did steal this country from Native Americans
I guess it is too much to have Chief Wahoo on a cap | |
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GoGetEmTigers DTF1 ADMINISTRATOR Detroit Tiger
Number of posts : 57424 Age : 65 Location : Eastern Ohio, near Wheeling WV Favorite Current Tiger(s) : JV, Hunter, Jackson, Porcello, Avila (really ALL of em!) Reputation : 20 Registration date : 2007-10-05
| Subject: Re: No more Chief Wahoo for Indians Mon May 25, 2009 6:45 pm | |
| - laprimamirala wrote:
- I was trying to do that but the addresses weren't copying correctly for some reason.
You are welcome. I had to get the pics from the store webpage, the one in the article would not copy correctly. | |
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gs78 Detroit Tiger
Number of posts : 27687 Age : 46 Location : Trashy Park Michigan Favorite Current Tiger(s) : Dontrelle Willis, Brandon Inge, Maggs, Verlander, Granderson, Pudge and Todd Jones Reputation : 9 Registration date : 2007-10-06
| Subject: Re: No more Chief Wahoo for Indians Tue May 26, 2009 4:00 pm | |
| I thought those red caps looked stupid; And they didn't match with most teams uniforms either; Except maybe the Twins[ who were wearing their retro Twins uniforms with Twins in red letters and the Angels
Just another way for Selig to make a buck | |
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gdennis59 Detroit Tiger
Number of posts : 7415 Age : 31 Location : Akron, Ohio Favorite Current Tiger(s) : Todd Jones, Miguel Cabrera, Jeremy Bonderman, Max Scherzer, Scott Sizemore Reputation : 13 Registration date : 2008-03-25
| Subject: Re: No more Chief Wahoo for Indians Tue May 26, 2009 4:38 pm | |
| I kinda liked the new hats.
Gives them more diversity and modernization in a way then the other teams, since no one else has a red hate cept the Angels. (and maybe some others...) | |
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gs78 Detroit Tiger
Number of posts : 27687 Age : 46 Location : Trashy Park Michigan Favorite Current Tiger(s) : Dontrelle Willis, Brandon Inge, Maggs, Verlander, Granderson, Pudge and Todd Jones Reputation : 9 Registration date : 2007-10-06
| Subject: Re: No more Chief Wahoo for Indians Tue May 26, 2009 5:09 pm | |
| - gdennis59 wrote:
- I kinda liked the new hats.
Gives them more diversity and modernization in a way then the other teams, since no one else has a red hate cept the Angels. (and maybe some others...) Chief Wahoo should have been on them | |
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