LEYLAND AND STAFF MUST BE FIRED NOW!

This is ridiculous! Trammell builds up a World Series quality team and now -- each year Leyland is here, the team does worse and worse! And all Leyland can say is, I don't know what to do...these are professionals and know what they need to do. Well, that must not be true, they are getting worse and worse!

Sure seems a change of management sure has turned around the Jays!

Please Mr Illich, fire the bunch now... you have great players, but management does not know what to do with them, or they are destroying our pitching staff!!!!

Yeah! (except please keep Jeff J. he has done nothing wrong )

I whole heartedly agree! And I would also consider firing DD as well! Sure....we need bullpen help....but you don't trade your HOF catcher to the Yankees for a AAA caliber reliever!

Remember when we had a good team? Seems like a long time ago.

Ain't gonna happen

How did Trammell build this team? Dombrowski is the one that builds this team. Trammell was a lousy manager who didn't know how to pinch hit or rest his players. Leyland was in the right place at the right time. Trammell would've never led that 2006 team to the WS. Both suck, but Leyland sucks less.

I'm ready for a real manager now.

Trammell Doesn't Suck


Best Tigers Shortstop Ever

gs78 wrote:

Best Tigers Shortstop Ever

Sure, but he wasn't managing while playing shortstop. Take the glove and bat away and Trammell is useless.

I would rather see Gibby as a manager. He has mellowed, yet would not take crap from the players! Also, he has been working as a bench coach, which is like an assistant manager. I am sure he has learned a lot in his years with AZ.

bobrob2004 wrote:

gs78 wrote:

Best Tigers Shortstop Ever

Sure, but he wasn't managing while playing shortstop. Take the glove and bat away and Trammell is useless.

Tram could be a hitting coach or bench coach

My vote is for Gibby!

Sparky Anderson

gs78 wrote:

Sparky Anderson

is he still alive?

laprimamirala wrote:

gs78 wrote:

Sparky Anderson

is he still alive?

Shame on you Lap!


Sparky is still alive


In Fact there is a video of him on either WDIV.COM or Maybe WXYZ>COM being asked how he feels about Tiger Stadium being demolished

but how old?

laprimamirala wrote:

but how old?

74

alrighty then

James looks that old now, thanks to his ciggy habit

gs78 wrote:

laprimamirala wrote:

but how old?

74

Same age as John McCain.....no freakin' thanks!!

I still want Gibby!

Gibby and/or Andy Van Slyke with Kenny as the new head pitching coach

How about Tom Brookens?

From Billfer at the Detroit Tiger Weblog:

Verlander and Leyland do lots of talking, and Hernandez chimes in
September 7th, 2008 at 10:47 am

As the Tigers season has slid out of control, Jim Leyland has taken to reading and the newspapers and responding to what his players say in the newspapers. The latest was with Justin Verlander. Verlander mentioned a tight strike zone as a reason for his Labor Day labors.

Leyland didn’t like the excuse making. The two had a chat and everyone is happy now, but Verlander still isn’t pitching well. So his pitching coach comes out and makes an excuse for Verlander. Verlander was trying too hard in many of those starts. Whatever.

Chuck Hernandez screwed up Justin Verlander from the start this year. His intentions were fine, trying to make Verlander a more efficient pitcher and keep him strong for later in the season. Unfortunately Herandez took something that wasn’t broken and broke it. Verlander altered his mechanics, with poor results. He switched back, and had some success as he regained velocity and bite. But now he’s back to struggling again and back to working on his mechanics.

When Verlander was drafted there were concerns about control and mechanics, but the Tigers got those straightened out quickly and turned him into a stud pitcher. Now he’s still trying to regain what he once had in his first 3 years in pro baseball.

Hernandez has been under considerable scrutiny over the last year and a half. Not being privy to the coach/player interactions it is hard to know how much is the coach’s fault and how much is the player failing to execute. The pitching staff has just done too poorly though at this point for Hernandez to retain his job, and the management of Verlander may be the most damning evidence.

The above sure follows the same things we have said here... Hernandez is the pitching staffs problem!