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laprimamirala Detroit Tiger
Number of posts : 14194 Age : 63 Location : SE Michigan Favorite Current Tiger(s) : Magglio........:) Reputation : 11 Registration date : 2007-10-29
| Subject: Re: FERNANDO RODNEY CAREER TRACKER Sun Jul 20, 2008 2:53 pm | |
| Now if Magglio's hair ever went up for sale..... | |
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GoGetEmTigers DTF1 ADMINISTRATOR Detroit Tiger
Number of posts : 57424 Age : 65 Location : Eastern Ohio, near Wheeling WV Favorite Current Tiger(s) : JV, Hunter, Jackson, Porcello, Avila (really ALL of em!) Reputation : 20 Registration date : 2007-10-05
| Subject: Re: FERNANDO RODNEY CAREER TRACKER Sun Jul 20, 2008 6:56 pm | |
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laprimamirala Detroit Tiger
Number of posts : 14194 Age : 63 Location : SE Michigan Favorite Current Tiger(s) : Magglio........:) Reputation : 11 Registration date : 2007-10-29
| Subject: Re: FERNANDO RODNEY CAREER TRACKER Sun Jul 20, 2008 6:59 pm | |
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bobrob2004 DTF1 MODERATOR Detroit Tiger
Number of posts : 10646 Age : 39 Location : Warren, MI Reputation : 12 Registration date : 2007-10-05
| Subject: Re: FERNANDO RODNEY CAREER TRACKER Sun Aug 03, 2008 6:28 pm | |
| :rodney: | |
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gdennis59 Detroit Tiger
Number of posts : 7415 Age : 31 Location : Akron, Ohio Favorite Current Tiger(s) : Todd Jones, Miguel Cabrera, Jeremy Bonderman, Max Scherzer, Scott Sizemore Reputation : 13 Registration date : 2008-03-25
| Subject: Re: FERNANDO RODNEY CAREER TRACKER Sun Aug 03, 2008 6:30 pm | |
| FUCK YOU FERNANDO RODNEY!!!! YOU SUCK!!! JONESY SHOULD HAVE NEVER BEEN REPLACED!!! | |
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laprimamirala Detroit Tiger
Number of posts : 14194 Age : 63 Location : SE Michigan Favorite Current Tiger(s) : Magglio........:) Reputation : 11 Registration date : 2007-10-29
| Subject: Re: FERNANDO RODNEY CAREER TRACKER Sun Aug 03, 2008 7:01 pm | |
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GoGetEmTigers DTF1 ADMINISTRATOR Detroit Tiger
Number of posts : 57424 Age : 65 Location : Eastern Ohio, near Wheeling WV Favorite Current Tiger(s) : JV, Hunter, Jackson, Porcello, Avila (really ALL of em!) Reputation : 20 Registration date : 2007-10-05
| Subject: Re: FERNANDO RODNEY CAREER TRACKER Sun Aug 03, 2008 7:16 pm | |
| Hope you like Toledo, Rodney! | |
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laprimamirala Detroit Tiger
Number of posts : 14194 Age : 63 Location : SE Michigan Favorite Current Tiger(s) : Magglio........:) Reputation : 11 Registration date : 2007-10-29
| Subject: Re: FERNANDO RODNEY CAREER TRACKER Sun Aug 03, 2008 8:33 pm | |
| give this dude his walkin' papers! | |
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GoGetEmTigers DTF1 ADMINISTRATOR Detroit Tiger
Number of posts : 57424 Age : 65 Location : Eastern Ohio, near Wheeling WV Favorite Current Tiger(s) : JV, Hunter, Jackson, Porcello, Avila (really ALL of em!) Reputation : 20 Registration date : 2007-10-05
| Subject: Re: FERNANDO RODNEY CAREER TRACKER Tue Aug 26, 2008 1:29 am | |
| 08/25/2008 7:25 PM ET Command, game plan keys for Rodney Right-hander looks to harness velocity with more control By Jason Beck / MLB.com
DETROIT -- Fernando Rodney got the message.
The Tigers' closer knows he has to go in with a game plan when he attempts to finish off a game. The start of a good game plan, however, is commanding the pitches with which he has to work.
Manager Jim Leyland talked to Rodney this weekend, after a rough outing on Friday in Kansas City. It was a wide-ranging conversation, Rodney said, but the general point was the same.
"He wants me to know when I go in the game what I'm going to do with hitters," Rodney said.
The key there is knowing what his pitches are going to do. That, Leyland said, is where fastball command comes into play, not velocity.
"I think that starts with commanding the fastball," Leyland said. "If you can't command your pitches, there's no benefit to a game plan. If he gets that, I think he can have a great game plan. Spotting the fastball where you want to throw it on a consistent basis, that makes a lot of things click."
That has been an area of improvement with Rodney at times, lately. He spotted it well enough to get Rangers hitters to chase his four-seam fastball rising up and out of the strike zone last week at Texas, before a rough outing at Kansas City prompted Leyland to have a short, but sweet conversation with his closer.
"I think that's a good pitch," Rodney said of his four-seamer. "Keep the pitch a little high, elevate it. Most power hitters [will chase] a chest-up pitch, because he thinks it's a good pitch."
If he commands that and improves his spotting of his two-seam fastball, it will give him more deception in the elevation, as well as speed. He then can go to work on plotting how he'll use his pitches against hitters.
Part of that plan comes from the catcher, who in most cases has seen the opponent's at-bat and approaches all night. But the pitcher can also pick up ideas through observation.
"He told me a couple things, 'Rodney, now you're the closer, but make sure when you come to the game, you come ready to make the pitch you want to throw," Rodney said. "You have to know the hitter you're going to face."
Jason Beck is a reporter for MLB.com. This story was not subject to the approval of Major League Baseball or its clubs. | |
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gdennis59 Detroit Tiger
Number of posts : 7415 Age : 31 Location : Akron, Ohio Favorite Current Tiger(s) : Todd Jones, Miguel Cabrera, Jeremy Bonderman, Max Scherzer, Scott Sizemore Reputation : 13 Registration date : 2008-03-25
| Subject: Re: FERNANDO RODNEY CAREER TRACKER Wed Sep 10, 2008 8:26 am | |
| Ummm yeah. Rodney still sucks. he keeps losing games and blowing leads that Jonesy sure wouldnt. | |
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GoGetEmTigers DTF1 ADMINISTRATOR Detroit Tiger
Number of posts : 57424 Age : 65 Location : Eastern Ohio, near Wheeling WV Favorite Current Tiger(s) : JV, Hunter, Jackson, Porcello, Avila (really ALL of em!) Reputation : 20 Registration date : 2007-10-05
| Subject: Re: FERNANDO RODNEY CAREER TRACKER Wed Sep 10, 2008 10:06 am | |
| - gdennis59 wrote:
- Ummm yeah. Rodney still sucks.
he keeps losing games and blowing leads that Jonesy sure wouldnt. That's for sure! | |
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laprimamirala Detroit Tiger
Number of posts : 14194 Age : 63 Location : SE Michigan Favorite Current Tiger(s) : Magglio........:) Reputation : 11 Registration date : 2007-10-29
| Subject: Re: FERNANDO RODNEY CAREER TRACKER Wed Sep 10, 2008 2:33 pm | |
| I think Todd freaked out. | |
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gdennis59 Detroit Tiger
Number of posts : 7415 Age : 31 Location : Akron, Ohio Favorite Current Tiger(s) : Todd Jones, Miguel Cabrera, Jeremy Bonderman, Max Scherzer, Scott Sizemore Reputation : 13 Registration date : 2008-03-25
| Subject: Re: FERNANDO RODNEY CAREER TRACKER Wed Sep 10, 2008 2:42 pm | |
| He shoulda. Jonesy is beast. | |
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bobrob2004 DTF1 MODERATOR Detroit Tiger
Number of posts : 10646 Age : 39 Location : Warren, MI Reputation : 12 Registration date : 2007-10-05
| Subject: Re: FERNANDO RODNEY CAREER TRACKER Tue Sep 16, 2008 11:43 pm | |
| :rodney: | |
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GoGetEmTigers DTF1 ADMINISTRATOR Detroit Tiger
Number of posts : 57424 Age : 65 Location : Eastern Ohio, near Wheeling WV Favorite Current Tiger(s) : JV, Hunter, Jackson, Porcello, Avila (really ALL of em!) Reputation : 20 Registration date : 2007-10-05
| Subject: Re: FERNANDO RODNEY CAREER TRACKER Wed Sep 17, 2008 12:34 am | |
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gs78 Detroit Tiger
Number of posts : 27687 Age : 46 Location : Trashy Park Michigan Favorite Current Tiger(s) : Dontrelle Willis, Brandon Inge, Maggs, Verlander, Granderson, Pudge and Todd Jones Reputation : 9 Registration date : 2007-10-06
| Subject: Re: FERNANDO RODNEY CAREER TRACKER Wed Sep 17, 2008 2:02 am | |
| - bobrob2004 wrote:
- :rodney:
Rodney Sucks | |
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swiss_tiger Erie SeaWolf
Number of posts : 1760 Age : 54 Location : Switzerland Favorite Current Tiger(s) : Inge, Inge, Inge and hhmmm Inge. ;-) Reputation : 2 Registration date : 2007-10-05
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gdennis59 Detroit Tiger
Number of posts : 7415 Age : 31 Location : Akron, Ohio Favorite Current Tiger(s) : Todd Jones, Miguel Cabrera, Jeremy Bonderman, Max Scherzer, Scott Sizemore Reputation : 13 Registration date : 2008-03-25
| Subject: Re: FERNANDO RODNEY CAREER TRACKER Wed Sep 17, 2008 8:27 am | |
| Whoooo bobrob! You have finally learned what gs and I have known all along. | |
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GoGetEmTigers DTF1 ADMINISTRATOR Detroit Tiger
Number of posts : 57424 Age : 65 Location : Eastern Ohio, near Wheeling WV Favorite Current Tiger(s) : JV, Hunter, Jackson, Porcello, Avila (really ALL of em!) Reputation : 20 Registration date : 2007-10-05
| Subject: Re: FERNANDO RODNEY CAREER TRACKER Wed Dec 17, 2008 8:06 pm | |
| 12/17/08 5:33 PM EST Rodney's role likely key for Tigers Whether it's as a closer or setup man, resurgence is important
By Jason Beck / MLB.com
DETROIT -- The Tigers' search for help in their bullpen rolls on into the holiday season. Yet one way or another, a Detroit recovery on the baseball field will have to include Fernando Rodney.
As options for a closer dwindled on the free-agent and trade markets, the more Rodney seemingly became a topic in the Tigers' public remarks. He is the incumbent closer, of course, and until -- or maybe unless -- the Tigers bring in someone else, he is Detroit's current closer.
"Hey, if Fernando Rodney throws the ball great, he can close games -- if he throws strikes," team president/general manager Dave Dombrowski said during last week's Winter Meetings.
Yet for someone who could end up holding onto his role, the question around Rodney still revolves around whether he can fill it effectively. He'll turn 32 years old in March, yet faces some of the same questions as a perennial prospect. The issues surrounding him, and the points he has to prove, are big for the Tigers no matter in what situation they have Rodney pitch.
For all the twists and turns -- many of them unwelcome -- to Detroit's 2008 season, arguably no Tiger had as many of them as Rodney. He reported to Spring Training last February primed to be Detroit's primary setup man, a critical role while Joel Zumaya recovered from shoulder surgery, before Rodney's own throwing shoulder started giving him trouble. After repeated stops and starts lingered into mid-April, the Tigers sent Rodney to Dr. James Andrews expecting that he would need surgery, only to be told there was nothing wrong that rest and medication couldn't heal.
Once he did return, the stops and starts applied to his command of the strike zone. He gave up a go-ahead three-run homer in his first game back June 16 at San Francisco, then walked back-to-back batters on eight pitches in his next outing four days later. A pregame mound session aimed at shoring up his delivery set him up for five straight dominant outings from there.
From there, with all due respect to Todd Jones' nickname, the Rodney roller coaster was out of the boarding area. He walked 10 batters in a six-outing stretch as closer from late July to mid-August, including a three-walk blown save at St. Petersburg, before racking up four saves in five outings with eight strikeouts after that. A bizarre three-walk blown save Sept. 16 at Texas preceded a run of three saves in as many days over the season's final weekend against the Rays.
About 42 percent of Rodney's plate appearances ended in either a strikeout or a walk, including exactly half of his situations with two outs and runners in scoring position. Of the 38 games he pitched, he walked the first batter he faced nine times, but struck him out just as often.
Now, with the Tigers' closer situation still unsettled, they're back pondering Rodney's potential place and debating what it could take for him to emerge as a shutdown reliever. The one new factor they have now is Rodney's next contract.
"I think that the stuff is definitely there to close," manager Jim Leyland said. "The mentality has been there part-time and not all the time. And I think that we do have one advantage, which is normally players that are free agents are going to be prepared on a daily basis to do everything they can to enhance their opportunity at the end of the season. So that's good news.
"Is the stuff there? Yes. Are the poise and the charisma there yet? Sometimes, not all the time."
Rodney is eligible for arbitration after finishing up a two-year contract. Whether the financial security free-agent relievers have found the last couple years will be there for him next winter depends a lot on whether he's there for the Tigers next season, whatever the role.
"He's a free agent in a year," Dombrowski said. "You know he's driven to be successful and do whatever he can."
From a pure pitching standpoint, Rodney has reason for encouragement. The slider that he abandoned following Tommy John elbow ligament transplant surgery in 2005 came back this year, and bullpen coach Jeff Jones encouraged him to throw it with more regularity. The fastball topped out at 99 mph on some stadium radar readings, setting up an offspeed pitch that some regard among the best in the American League now that Johan Santana is in the National League.
Rodney pitched well in his first couple outings in the Dominican Winter League after taking the last couple years off to rest and rehab his arm.
As Leyland said, the stuff is there. The key will be to put it together and command it in a consistent delivery that can get the swings and misses without as many of the free passes. If it turns out that he has to do it in the ninth inning, it's all the more important.
"Somebody's got to close the game for you," Dombrowski said. "Somebody's going to be your guy that pitches the ninth inning."
Jason Beck is a reporter for MLB.com. This story was not subject to the approval of Major League Baseball or its clubs. | |
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gdennis59 Detroit Tiger
Number of posts : 7415 Age : 31 Location : Akron, Ohio Favorite Current Tiger(s) : Todd Jones, Miguel Cabrera, Jeremy Bonderman, Max Scherzer, Scott Sizemore Reputation : 13 Registration date : 2008-03-25
| Subject: Re: FERNANDO RODNEY CAREER TRACKER Thu Dec 18, 2008 8:24 am | |
| I dont think a 6.00+ ERA will fit the role quite good. | |
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laprimamirala Detroit Tiger
Number of posts : 14194 Age : 63 Location : SE Michigan Favorite Current Tiger(s) : Magglio........:) Reputation : 11 Registration date : 2007-10-29
| Subject: Re: FERNANDO RODNEY CAREER TRACKER Thu Dec 18, 2008 8:25 am | |
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gdennis59 Detroit Tiger
Number of posts : 7415 Age : 31 Location : Akron, Ohio Favorite Current Tiger(s) : Todd Jones, Miguel Cabrera, Jeremy Bonderman, Max Scherzer, Scott Sizemore Reputation : 13 Registration date : 2008-03-25
| Subject: Re: FERNANDO RODNEY CAREER TRACKER Thu Dec 18, 2008 8:31 am | |
| I cant see the pic.
Damn school webwashers. | |
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laprimamirala Detroit Tiger
Number of posts : 14194 Age : 63 Location : SE Michigan Favorite Current Tiger(s) : Magglio........:) Reputation : 11 Registration date : 2007-10-29
| Subject: Re: FERNANDO RODNEY CAREER TRACKER Thu Dec 18, 2008 8:51 am | |
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gdennis59 Detroit Tiger
Number of posts : 7415 Age : 31 Location : Akron, Ohio Favorite Current Tiger(s) : Todd Jones, Miguel Cabrera, Jeremy Bonderman, Max Scherzer, Scott Sizemore Reputation : 13 Registration date : 2008-03-25
| Subject: Re: FERNANDO RODNEY CAREER TRACKER Thu Dec 18, 2008 8:56 am | |
| Your tellin me! I hate this school though. Like I like the teachers and the district but its the building.
It used to be a night club, a bowling alley, and a strip club. | |
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GoGetEmTigers DTF1 ADMINISTRATOR Detroit Tiger
Number of posts : 57424 Age : 65 Location : Eastern Ohio, near Wheeling WV Favorite Current Tiger(s) : JV, Hunter, Jackson, Porcello, Avila (really ALL of em!) Reputation : 20 Registration date : 2007-10-05
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laprimamirala Detroit Tiger
Number of posts : 14194 Age : 63 Location : SE Michigan Favorite Current Tiger(s) : Magglio........:) Reputation : 11 Registration date : 2007-10-29
| Subject: Re: FERNANDO RODNEY CAREER TRACKER Thu Dec 18, 2008 11:32 am | |
| now THAT's recycling!!! | |
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gdennis59 Detroit Tiger
Number of posts : 7415 Age : 31 Location : Akron, Ohio Favorite Current Tiger(s) : Todd Jones, Miguel Cabrera, Jeremy Bonderman, Max Scherzer, Scott Sizemore Reputation : 13 Registration date : 2008-03-25
| Subject: Re: FERNANDO RODNEY CAREER TRACKER Thu Dec 18, 2008 12:12 pm | |
| Not in the best manner... | |
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laprimamirala Detroit Tiger
Number of posts : 14194 Age : 63 Location : SE Michigan Favorite Current Tiger(s) : Magglio........:) Reputation : 11 Registration date : 2007-10-29
| Subject: Re: FERNANDO RODNEY CAREER TRACKER Thu Dec 18, 2008 12:23 pm | |
| not every student in the world has a school building to attend | |
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gdennis59 Detroit Tiger
Number of posts : 7415 Age : 31 Location : Akron, Ohio Favorite Current Tiger(s) : Todd Jones, Miguel Cabrera, Jeremy Bonderman, Max Scherzer, Scott Sizemore Reputation : 13 Registration date : 2008-03-25
| Subject: Re: FERNANDO RODNEY CAREER TRACKER Fri Dec 19, 2008 8:37 am | |
| I know, but I think there are some schools I would rather attend over this one.... | |
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laprimamirala Detroit Tiger
Number of posts : 14194 Age : 63 Location : SE Michigan Favorite Current Tiger(s) : Magglio........:) Reputation : 11 Registration date : 2007-10-29
| Subject: Re: FERNANDO RODNEY CAREER TRACKER Fri Dec 19, 2008 8:38 am | |
| You can! Keep writing, get your portfolio going, intern and network when in college...your situation will change in a couple years. | |
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