GDT: 4/24/07 - Tigers @ Angels

Bobrob2004 found this thread. The original can be read here. I was at this game (and the one the day before which we're unable to locate in the archives). This one was a tough one to swallow.

From: bobrob2004 4/24/2007 3:40 pm
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Bonderman 0-0 2.25 ERA vs. Escobar 1-1 3.18 ERA

Tigers
Granderson CF
Thames LF
Sheffield DH
Ordonez RF
Guillen SS
Pudge C
Casey 1B
Inge 3B
Perez 2B

Angels
Matthews CF
Cabrerra SS
Guerrero RF
Anderson LF
Kotchman 1B
Morales DH
Izturis 3B
Molina C
Aybar 2B

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From: bobrob2004 4/24/2007 3:41 pm
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Granderson K's to start the game.

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From: bobrob2004 4/24/2007 3:43 pm
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Thames follows suit, but does it on less pitches, only 3.

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From: bobrob2004 4/24/2007 3:46 pm
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Sheffield decides to follow the leader as well, Escobar K's the side.

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From: bobrob2004 4/24/2007 3:48 pm
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Matthews singles to start the Angels 1st inning.

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From: bobrob2004 4/24/2007 3:49 pm
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Matthews steals 2nd, his 6th.

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From: tigers557 4/24/2007 3:55 pm
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Nice out, no run scored, way to get him Bondo.

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From: tigers557 4/24/2007 3:57 pm
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DAM.N it Guillen, he errored twice in a row, now they lead 3-0.

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From: tigers557 4/24/2007 3:59 pm
To: Jdog21 (12 of 92)
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Another run for the Angels 4-0, Dam.n it Guillen!!!

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From: tigers557 4/24/2007 4:00 pm
To: Jdog21 (13 of 92)
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its not Bondo, he basically would have gotten them out if Guillen would have fielded it cleanly.

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From: tigers557 4/24/2007 4:00 pm
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Bonderman K's Molina.

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From: bobrob2004 4/24/2007 4:01 pm
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Cabrerra doubles, scores Matthews, Guerrero singles, Anderson flies out, Kothcman reaches on by Guillen, Cabrerra scores, Morales reaches on another error by Guillen scoring Guerrero. 3-0 Angles.

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From: tigers557 4/24/2007 4:02 pm
To: Jdog21 (17 of 92)
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Its only the first inning if we get him out now we will have to use too much of our bullpen

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From: tigers557 4/24/2007 4:03 pm
To: Jdog21 (19 of 92)
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He's batting second this inning, lets see what he does.

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From: scarolina 4/24/2007 4:03 pm
To: bobrob2004 (20 of 92)
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When did this start about having to rest position players? I know they didn't do that during the years Ripken played. I bet ARod isn't getting days to rest.

From: tigers557 4/24/2007 4:06 pm
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Maggs singled

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From: bobrob2004 4/24/2007 4:07 pm
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Due up for the Tigers,

Ordonez
Guillen
Pudge

My thoughts on Guillen, after this year move him to first and sign or trade for SS (Eckstein anyone?)

Odonez singles.

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From: tigers557 4/24/2007 4:09 pm
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Guillen grounded into Double Play, he just has been playing terrribly today.

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From: tigers557 4/24/2007 4:11 pm
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Jesus one bad day and a player becomes unworthy of playing a specific position.

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From: bobrob2004 4/24/2007 4:12 pm
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Pudge is given Escobar a battle here.

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From: bobrob2004 4/24/2007 4:13 pm
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Top of the order due up for the Angels

Matthews
Cabrera
Guerrero

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From: scarolina 4/24/2007 4:16 pm
To: bobrob2004 (28 of 92)
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It's gonna be a long 3 months till we get Kenny back......

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From: bobrob2004 4/24/2007 4:17 pm
To: tigers557 (29 of 92)
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"Jesus one bad day and a player becomes unworthy of playing a specific position."

Not only one bad day, he lead all SS last year in errors. It could be his knees or something. At least I didn't say to get rid of him. We need his offense and he is not capable of playing SS anymore. JMO

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From: tigers557 4/24/2007 4:18 pm
To: scarolina (30 of 92)
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Bonderman has been pitching terribly.

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From: tigers557 4/24/2007 4:20 pm
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He has got good range but rthe reason he has so many errors is tat they give him errors when he bobbles the ball after showing good range to get to balls.

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From: bobrob2004 4/24/2007 4:20 pm
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"Bonderman has been pitching terribly."

He had three great performances, he was due to fall flat on his face. Typical Bonderman.

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From: tigers557 4/24/2007 4:21 pm
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Im not saying he is a terrible pitcher, Im saying he is pitching terrible today.

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From: baines03 4/24/2007 4:21 pm
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Do you guys have a solid backup SS? Guillen seemed to play 1b last year just fine...

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From: bobrob2004 4/24/2007 4:21 pm
To: tigers557 (35 of 92)
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"but rthe reason he has so many errors is tat they give him errors when he bobbles the ball after showing good range to get to balls"

My point exactly.

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From: tigers557 4/24/2007 4:22 pm
To: baines03 (36 of 92)
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Not really Omar and Neifi can both play SS, but they aren't very good on offense.

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From: bobrob2004 4/24/2007 4:24 pm
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"Im not saying he is a terrible pitcher, Im saying he is pitching terrible today."

Right, he pitches lights out for a couple of games, and then falls flat on his face. That is why he has never won more than 14 games, too inconsistant.

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From: baines03 4/24/2007 4:25 pm
To: tigers557 (38 of 92)
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Yeah, Perez is consistently bad. I knew about Omar's offense (kind of a pest); didn't really know about his defense.


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From: tigers557 4/24/2007 4:25 pm
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Well at least were out of that inning, lets give Bonderman one more chance and he might settle in by next inning.

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From: bobrob2004 4/24/2007 4:30 pm
To: tigers557 (40 of 92)
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Casey flies out, Inge K's. Perez batting. Not looking good.

From: tigers557 4/24/2007 4:31 pm
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We went down 1-2-3, come on Bondo show us something good.

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From: tigers557 4/24/2007 4:33 pm
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Bonderman picks up the K.

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From: tigers557 4/24/2007 4:37 pm
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Seattle got another game Post Poned.

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From: bobrob2004 4/24/2007 4:39 pm
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2 K's for Bonderman, hopefully he gets into a groove. Now if only they can create some offence.

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From: tigers557 4/24/2007 4:39 pm
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Angels score again, they now lead 7-0.

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From: bobrob2004 4/24/2007 4:39 pm
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Spoke too soon, 7-0 Angels.

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From: tigers557 4/24/2007 4:40 pm
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believe it or not he struck out 3 that inning.

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From: bobrob2004 4/24/2007 4:43 pm
To: tigers557 (48 of 92)
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Ya, Bonderman K's the side. Now lets hope that they don't get shutout. Start chipping away.

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From: bobrob2004 4/24/2007 4:45 pm
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Granderson K's, that's now 5 for Escobar with only 1 hit allowed.

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From: bobrob2004 4/24/2007 4:46 pm
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Ironically, Bonderman has 6 K's.

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From: tigers557 4/24/2007 4:46 pm
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Wow both teams have had back to back errors.

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From: tigers557 4/24/2007 4:47 pm
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Yay, we scored now they only lead by 6!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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From: bobrob2004 4/24/2007 4:48 pm
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Not a well played game, defensively. Hope the Tigers can take advantage like the Angels did.

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From: tigers557 4/24/2007 4:48 pm
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TIme for Guillen to make up for the errors.

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From: tigers557 4/24/2007 4:49 pm
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and grounding into a DP in the first.

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From: tigers557 4/24/2007 4:50 pm
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Yes bases loaded

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From: bobrob2004 4/24/2007 4:51 pm
To: tigers557 (57 of 92)
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Bases are loaded. C'mon Pudge!

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From: tigers557 4/24/2007 4:51 pm
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Dam.n it Pudge that was the one thing he wasnt suppose to do.

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From: bobrob2004 4/24/2007 4:54 pm
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Ya, that could have been the only time that they could've got back in the game. Bonderman needs a quick inning here.

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From: tigers557 4/24/2007 4:56 pm
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Good, a nice 1-2-3 inning.

From: bobrob2004 4/24/2007 4:58 pm
To: tigers557 (61 of 92)
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Now the offence needs to ride the momentum from last inning. Due up:

Casey
Inge
Perez

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From: tigers557 4/24/2007 5:01 pm
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Just like that we go 1-2-3

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From: bobrob2004 4/24/2007 5:09 pm
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Bonderman escapes a 1 out single. He looks to have settled down now, but it may be too late. Due up:

Granderson
Thames
Sheffield

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From: bobrob2004 4/24/2007 5:12 pm
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Granderson K's, Thames singles. C'mon Sheffield do something productive!

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From: bobrob2004 4/24/2007 5:15 pm
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What do know, another BB for Sheffield. Is there such a thing as walking too much? Avoid the DP ball now!

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From: bobrob2004 4/24/2007 5:18 pm
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Ordonez gets a BB, bases are juiced for Guillen. If we can't get a hit, might as well walk. If there is ever a time to make up for the errors it's now.

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From: bobrob2004 4/24/2007 5:24 pm
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Guillen grounds out to 1B Kotchman, Thames scores, 7-2 now.

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From: bobrob2004 4/24/2007 5:26 pm
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Pudge singles, two more runs score, 7-4 now. Looks like the Tigers are back in this game.

Pitching change - Justin Speier

Leyland may want to get his bullpen going too.

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From: curtis789 4/24/2007 5:33 pm
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Brandon Inge would look great in a Toledo Mud Hen uniform.

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From: bobrob2004 4/24/2007 5:46 pm
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I can't believe Perez is batting here, should have put in Monroe or Infante.

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From: bobrob2004 4/24/2007 5:47 pm
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And just like that, he grounds out. Granderson's turn now.

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From: bobrob2004 4/24/2007 5:48 pm
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Home Run Granderson! 7-5 now. Granderson should be batting 5th or 6th.

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From: bobrob2004 4/24/2007 5:51 pm
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Thames was hit by the pitch. Tying run at the plate in the form of Gary Sheffield. Anything but a DP. Walk, maybe?

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From: bobrob2004 4/24/2007 5:51 pm
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Pitching change - Scot Shields.

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From: bobrob2004 4/24/2007 5:58 pm
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Sheffield grounds into a DP. Due up:

Kotchman
Morales
Izturis

Brace yourselves, it's Rockin' Rodney time! Good thing the score is not tied and it's not the 10th inning or later!

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From: bobrob2004 4/24/2007 6:02 pm
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Kotchman K's, Morales K's, back to back K's. Nothing to worry about... Yet.

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From: bobrob2004 4/24/2007 6:04 pm
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Izturis grounds out. First 1-2-3 inning for Rodney since 2003. Okay I'm exaggerating, but it's good to see Rodney doing good.

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From: jjreason 4/24/2007 6:43 pm
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Mags is huge.... huge.

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From: umtigerfan 4/24/2007 6:46 pm
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Please tell me that Leyland took Rodney out of the game and put in Zoom or Jones?

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From: ktpinnacle 4/24/2007 6:54 pm
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Devastating

We win, then we're tied.

What waste - hope we can recover and take this one.

From: bondy38 4/24/2007 6:54 pm
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Thanks Todd, two blown saves in a row.

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From: bondy38 4/24/2007 6:57 pm
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Jones needs to get his head in the game. If he was paying attention, vlad would have been out at the plate. You would not think a vet. like jones could be soooo lazy.

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From: jeremysm 4/24/2007 6:57 pm
To: bondy38 (83 of 92)
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I hate to say it but we have a lot of ?? on this team right now. Bullpen (including Zoom as of late) has been struggling. Starters have been shaky, lots of low batting averages etc. As long as we can stay in this thing thru June and get Kenny back and people work out of their slumps we should be ok.

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From: umtigerfan 4/24/2007 6:58 pm
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On a wild pitch of all things. Geesh!!

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From: pfkabb 4/24/2007 6:58 pm
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Anyone watching the game on tv, was guerrero's fly ball reachable by a decent outfielder? Or did Maggs slow-footed defense cost the Tigers again?

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From: jeremysm 4/24/2007 7:01 pm
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It was pretty deep into the corner. Maybe a young guy gets to it but I honestly cant say most people would have.

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From: jeremysm 4/24/2007 7:10 pm
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I think Torri Hunter sent Todd Jones champagne. What the He!! is he doing?????

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From: curtis789 4/24/2007 7:10 pm
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I hate Todd Jones. I repeat, I HATE TODD JONES.

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From: bondy38 4/24/2007 7:13 pm
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He's nothing but an old, washed up, lazy piece of garbage.

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From: bobrob2004 4/24/2007 7:18 pm
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What a waste coming back from behind. They would have been better off losing 7-0.

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From: pfkabb 4/24/2007 7:21 pm
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Long season in 2006 = Tired arms in 2007.

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From: jeremysm 4/24/2007 7:22 pm
To: bondy38 (92 of 92)
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Our bullpen is in trouble. Rondey and Jones have both looked suspect, Zumaya needs a 3rd pitch and we are in serious need of a 5th starter....combine that with the fact that half of our lineup isnt hitting and that spells trouble. I know many people will say "yes but despite all of this we are still near the top of the division." But guess what, every other team except KC can say that exact same thing. Seems like the first team in the ALC that can get hot could possibly open up a 5 or 6 game lead in a hurry.