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PostSubject: I hate Algebra 2!!!   I hate Algebra 2!!! Icon_minipostedFri Sep 12, 2008 11:26 am

Ok all you math geniuses I am having trouble with one of my Algebra 2 problems. The section in my book is called 'Making a Perfect Square Trinomial in Order to Factor a Difference of Squares' basically the idea is that you have a trinomial but it isn't square, so in order to make it square you have to add or subtract something from it.

Here is the problem:

4c^4-37c^2d^2+9d^4

Then you have to subtract 25c^2d^2 from that so that it is a perfect square trinomial. Then after that you want to factor it to get two trinomials:

(2c^2+5cd-3d^2)(2c^2-5cd-3d^2)

I thought that is the end but the answer book reduces it a step further to get:

(2c-d)(c+3d)(2c+d)(c-3d)

How the Censored did they get that?? I think I get how the answer could be that but I don't know how to make it that, so right now I am super confused! Help!!!

(if it makes any difference I have scoured through every single Algebra 2 help site out there and I haven't found anything like this! Oh and sorry if I confuse anyone Big Smile)
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PostSubject: Re: I hate Algebra 2!!!   I hate Algebra 2!!! Icon_minipostedFri Sep 12, 2008 11:29 am

I remember taking Algebra 2! Give me a sec to see if I remember any of the content...
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PostSubject: Re: I hate Algebra 2!!!   I hate Algebra 2!!! Icon_minipostedFri Sep 12, 2008 11:45 am

Ok, so the original equation was...

4c^4-37c^2d^2+9d^4

I'm confused on why you subtract 25c^2d^2. When you carry out (2c^2+5cd-3d^2)(2c^2-5cd-3d^2) you get...

4c^4-25c^2d^2+9d^4

So did you mean replace the -37c^2d^2 with -25c^2^d^2? 25 is a perfect square so that makes sense.

Anyways, I know that's what you didn't ask me.

You want to know how to get from

(2c^2+5cd-3d^2)(2c^2-5cd-3d^2)

to here

(2c-d)(c+3d)(2c+d)(c-3d), right?

Let me think about it some more...
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PostSubject: Re: I hate Algebra 2!!!   I hate Algebra 2!!! Icon_minipostedFri Sep 12, 2008 11:48 am

So many carrots in this puke

Original problem...

4c4-37c2d2+9d4

You said subtract 25c2d2

take it away!

Too early for me to think...either that or once you learn this you can forget this as it's irrelevant in calculus and what not.


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PostSubject: Re: I hate Algebra 2!!!   I hate Algebra 2!!! Icon_minipostedFri Sep 12, 2008 11:49 am

Hey, how did you do that?!
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PostSubject: Re: I hate Algebra 2!!!   I hate Algebra 2!!! Icon_minipostedFri Sep 12, 2008 11:50 am

bobrob2004 wrote:
Hey, how did you do that?!

This is.....

Code:

T[sup]h[/sup][sub]i[/sub]s is.....
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PostSubject: Re: I hate Algebra 2!!!   I hate Algebra 2!!! Icon_minipostedFri Sep 12, 2008 11:52 am

bobrob2004 wrote:
Ok, so the original equation was...

4c^4-37c^2d^2+9d^4

I'm confused on why you subtract 25c^2d^2. When you carry out (2c^2+5cd-3d^2)(2c^2-5cd-3d^2) you get...

4c^4-25c^2d^2+9d^4

So did you mean replace the -37c^2d^2 with -25c^2^d^2? 25 is a perfect square so that makes sense.

Anyways, I know that's what you didn't ask me.

You want to know how to get from

(2c^2+5cd-3d^2)(2c^2-5cd-3d^2)

to here

(2c-d)(c+3d)(2c+d)(c-3d), right?

Let me think about it some more...

No they want the middle number to be -12cd (edited: I said that wrong the first time)

But yeah, I just want to know how to get from the 2 trinomials to the 4 binomials.


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PostSubject: Re: I hate Algebra 2!!!   I hate Algebra 2!!! Icon_minipostedFri Sep 12, 2008 11:53 am

catbox_9 wrote:
bobrob2004 wrote:
Hey, how did you do that?!

This is.....

Code:

T[sup]h[/sup][sub]i[/sub]s is.....

Thanks
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PostSubject: Re: I hate Algebra 2!!!   I hate Algebra 2!!! Icon_minipostedFri Sep 12, 2008 11:53 am

mrsrabelo wrote:
No they want the middle number to be -12c^2d^2

But yeah, I just want to know how to get from the 2 trinomials to the 4 binomials.

Then that makes no sense to me when I carry it out, so I can't help you Sorry
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PostSubject: Re: I hate Algebra 2!!!   I hate Algebra 2!!! Icon_minipostedFri Sep 12, 2008 11:55 am

bobrob2004 wrote:
mrsrabelo wrote:
No they want the middle number to be -12c^2d^2

But yeah, I just want to know how to get from the 2 trinomials to the 4 binomials.

Then that makes no sense to me when I carry it out, so I can't help you Sorry

Sorry, I wrote it wrong. I was talking about something else when I was typing it, I changed it in the post.
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PostSubject: Re: I hate Algebra 2!!!   I hate Algebra 2!!! Icon_minipostedFri Sep 12, 2008 11:56 am

bobrob2004 wrote:
catbox_9 wrote:
bobrob2004 wrote:
Hey, how did you do that?!

This is.....

Code:

T[sup]h[/sup][sub]i[/sub]s is.....

Thanks

Not a problem. Glad we solved everything. Math sucks, but if we work together we can solve it just like that!
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PostSubject: Re: I hate Algebra 2!!!   I hate Algebra 2!!! Icon_minipostedFri Sep 12, 2008 12:05 pm

mrsrabelo wrote:
bobrob2004 wrote:
mrsrabelo wrote:
No they want the middle number to be -12c^2d^2

But yeah, I just want to know how to get from the 2 trinomials to the 4 binomials.

Then that makes no sense to me when I carry it out, so I can't help you Sorry

Sorry, I wrote it wrong. I was talking about something else when I was typing it, I changed it in the post.

Ok, maybe it's just that I'm getting confused. Original problem...

4c4-37c2d2+9d4

New problem...

4c4-12c2d2+9d4

Solution: get 4 binomials.

Right?
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PostSubject: Re: I hate Algebra 2!!!   I hate Algebra 2!!! Icon_minipostedFri Sep 12, 2008 12:16 pm

Hmmm...

4c4-12c2d2+9d4

Turns into...

(2c2-3d2)(2c2-3d2)...
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PostSubject: Re: I hate Algebra 2!!!   I hate Algebra 2!!! Icon_minipostedFri Sep 12, 2008 12:28 pm

bobrob2004 wrote:
mrsrabelo wrote:
bobrob2004 wrote:
mrsrabelo wrote:
No they want the middle number to be -12c^2d^2

But yeah, I just want to know how to get from the 2 trinomials to the 4 binomials.

Then that makes no sense to me when I carry it out, so I can't help you Sorry

Sorry, I wrote it wrong. I was talking about something else when I was typing it, I changed it in the post.

Ok, maybe it's just that I'm getting confused. Original problem...

4c4-37c2d2+9d4

New problem...

4c4-12c2d2+9d4

Solution: get 4 binomials.

Right?

Your not the only one that is confused.

Original problem:

4c4-37c2d2+9d4

New Problem:

4c4-12c2d2+9d4

(and there is suppoed to be a -25c2d2 at the end but that factors out when you factor it into the two trinomials)

I don't like Algebra No
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PostSubject: Re: I hate Algebra 2!!!   I hate Algebra 2!!! Icon_minipostedFri Sep 12, 2008 1:36 pm

I remember I had to have my high school boyfriend help me with it every day after school plus have extra sessions with my teacher after class Frown I only took one semester of it because I'd already taken all of Algebra I and Geometry; we needed 5 semesters of math to graduate.
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For a math class, I liked Algebra 2. My teacher was one of those rare good math teachers. He gave me an A in all 4 quarters Big Smile

The class I hated was photography my senior year. I mean it was an easy A and kind of interesting, but still - it's not all that important. If not for that class I could have taken AP Environmental Science (which was supposed to be another easy A) and raised my GPA further...that was the only AP class I didn't get to take.
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I hate math


I can balance a checkbook


That's about it!
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PostSubject: Re: I hate Algebra 2!!!   I hate Algebra 2!!! Icon_minipostedFri Sep 12, 2008 6:39 pm

gs78 wrote:
I hate math


I can balance a checkbook


That's about it!

Unless you're in the sciences or medicine, that's about what you need to know to get by!
Oh, and BUDGETING. We had a class called Consumer Business.
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gs78 wrote:
I hate math


I can balance a checkbook


That's about it!

Unless you're in the sciences or medicine, that's about what you need to know to get by!
Oh, and BUDGETING. We had a class called Consumer Business.


Nod


Still trying to figure out the Math above scratch
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PostSubject: Re: I hate Algebra 2!!!   I hate Algebra 2!!! Icon_minipostedFri Sep 12, 2008 7:05 pm

Yup...my mind was fried after the first question!
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i freaking hate math its my enemy.
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You hate every subject. So what. lol
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i freaking hate math its my enemy.

Just get the basics down because you actually do need them in real life...
For example:

--when buying a car, calculating your payments
--when budgeting
--when figuring out your car's gas mileage, and believe me, you will want to know this eventually
--when going over your paycheck stub to make sure you were paid correctly (errors can and do happen).

I used to hate it too, but I got through it anway.
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