| I hate Algebra 2!!! | |
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+3catbox_9 bobrob2004 mrsrabelo 7 posters |
Do you think Algebra 2 is stupid?? | HECK YES! | | 57% | [ 4 ] | No | | 43% | [ 3 ] |
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mrsrabelo Erie SeaWolf
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| Subject: I hate Algebra 2!!! Fri Sep 12, 2008 11:26 am | |
| Ok all you math geniuses I am having trouble with one of my Algebra 2 problems. The section in my book is called 'Making a Perfect Square Trinomial in Order to Factor a Difference of Squares' basically the idea is that you have a trinomial but it isn't square, so in order to make it square you have to add or subtract something from it. Here is the problem: 4c^4-37c^2d^2+9d^4 Then you have to subtract 25c^2d^2 from that so that it is a perfect square trinomial. Then after that you want to factor it to get two trinomials: (2c^2+5cd-3d^2)(2c^2-5cd-3d^2) I thought that is the end but the answer book reduces it a step further to get: (2c-d)(c+3d)(2c+d)(c-3d) How the did they get that?? I think I get how the answer could be that but I don't know how to make it that, so right now I am super confused! Help!!! (if it makes any difference I have scoured through every single Algebra 2 help site out there and I haven't found anything like this! Oh and sorry if I confuse anyone ) | |
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bobrob2004 DTF1 MODERATOR Detroit Tiger
Number of posts : 10646 Age : 39 Location : Warren, MI Reputation : 12 Registration date : 2007-10-05
| Subject: Re: I hate Algebra 2!!! Fri Sep 12, 2008 11:29 am | |
| I remember taking Algebra 2! Give me a sec to see if I remember any of the content... | |
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bobrob2004 DTF1 MODERATOR Detroit Tiger
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| Subject: Re: I hate Algebra 2!!! Fri Sep 12, 2008 11:45 am | |
| Ok, so the original equation was...
4c^4-37c^2d^2+9d^4
I'm confused on why you subtract 25c^2d^2. When you carry out (2c^2+5cd-3d^2)(2c^2-5cd-3d^2) you get...
4c^4-25c^2d^2+9d^4
So did you mean replace the -37c^2d^2 with -25c^2^d^2? 25 is a perfect square so that makes sense.
Anyways, I know that's what you didn't ask me.
You want to know how to get from
(2c^2+5cd-3d^2)(2c^2-5cd-3d^2)
to here
(2c-d)(c+3d)(2c+d)(c-3d), right?
Let me think about it some more... | |
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catbox_9 DTF1 ADMINISTRATOR Detroit Tiger
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| Subject: Re: I hate Algebra 2!!! Fri Sep 12, 2008 11:48 am | |
| So many carrots in this Original problem... 4c 4-37c 2d 2+9d 4You said subtract 25c 2d 2take it away! Too early for me to think...either that or once you learn this you can forget this as it's irrelevant in calculus and what not.
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bobrob2004 DTF1 MODERATOR Detroit Tiger
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| Subject: Re: I hate Algebra 2!!! Fri Sep 12, 2008 11:49 am | |
| Hey, how did you do that?! | |
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catbox_9 DTF1 ADMINISTRATOR Detroit Tiger
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| Subject: Re: I hate Algebra 2!!! Fri Sep 12, 2008 11:50 am | |
| - bobrob2004 wrote:
- Hey, how did you do that?!
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mrsrabelo Erie SeaWolf
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| Subject: Re: I hate Algebra 2!!! Fri Sep 12, 2008 11:52 am | |
| - bobrob2004 wrote:
- Ok, so the original equation was...
4c^4-37c^2d^2+9d^4
I'm confused on why you subtract 25c^2d^2. When you carry out (2c^2+5cd-3d^2)(2c^2-5cd-3d^2) you get...
4c^4-25c^2d^2+9d^4
So did you mean replace the -37c^2d^2 with -25c^2^d^2? 25 is a perfect square so that makes sense.
Anyways, I know that's what you didn't ask me.
You want to know how to get from
(2c^2+5cd-3d^2)(2c^2-5cd-3d^2)
to here
(2c-d)(c+3d)(2c+d)(c-3d), right?
Let me think about it some more... No they want the middle number to be -12cd (edited: I said that wrong the first time)But yeah, I just want to know how to get from the 2 trinomials to the 4 binomials.
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bobrob2004 DTF1 MODERATOR Detroit Tiger
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| Subject: Re: I hate Algebra 2!!! Fri Sep 12, 2008 11:53 am | |
| - catbox_9 wrote:
- bobrob2004 wrote:
- Hey, how did you do that?!
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bobrob2004 DTF1 MODERATOR Detroit Tiger
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| Subject: Re: I hate Algebra 2!!! Fri Sep 12, 2008 11:53 am | |
| - mrsrabelo wrote:
- No they want the middle number to be -12c^2d^2
But yeah, I just want to know how to get from the 2 trinomials to the 4 binomials. Then that makes no sense to me when I carry it out, so I can't help you | |
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mrsrabelo Erie SeaWolf
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| Subject: Re: I hate Algebra 2!!! Fri Sep 12, 2008 11:55 am | |
| - bobrob2004 wrote:
- mrsrabelo wrote:
- No they want the middle number to be -12c^2d^2
But yeah, I just want to know how to get from the 2 trinomials to the 4 binomials. Then that makes no sense to me when I carry it out, so I can't help you Sorry, I wrote it wrong. I was talking about something else when I was typing it, I changed it in the post. | |
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catbox_9 DTF1 ADMINISTRATOR Detroit Tiger
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| Subject: Re: I hate Algebra 2!!! Fri Sep 12, 2008 11:56 am | |
| - bobrob2004 wrote:
- catbox_9 wrote:
- bobrob2004 wrote:
- Hey, how did you do that?!
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T[sup]h[/sup][sub]i[/sub]s is..... Not a problem. Glad we solved everything. Math sucks, but if we work together we can solve it just like that! | |
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bobrob2004 DTF1 MODERATOR Detroit Tiger
Number of posts : 10646 Age : 39 Location : Warren, MI Reputation : 12 Registration date : 2007-10-05
| Subject: Re: I hate Algebra 2!!! Fri Sep 12, 2008 12:05 pm | |
| - mrsrabelo wrote:
- bobrob2004 wrote:
- mrsrabelo wrote:
- No they want the middle number to be -12c^2d^2
But yeah, I just want to know how to get from the 2 trinomials to the 4 binomials. Then that makes no sense to me when I carry it out, so I can't help you Sorry, I wrote it wrong. I was talking about something else when I was typing it, I changed it in the post. Ok, maybe it's just that I'm getting confused. Original problem... 4c 4-37c 2d 2+9d 4New problem... 4c 4-12c 2d 2+9d 4Solution: get 4 binomials. Right? | |
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bobrob2004 DTF1 MODERATOR Detroit Tiger
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| Subject: Re: I hate Algebra 2!!! Fri Sep 12, 2008 12:16 pm | |
| Hmmm...
4c4-12c2d2+9d4
Turns into...
(2c2-3d2)(2c2-3d2)... | |
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mrsrabelo Erie SeaWolf
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| Subject: Re: I hate Algebra 2!!! Fri Sep 12, 2008 12:28 pm | |
| - bobrob2004 wrote:
- mrsrabelo wrote:
- bobrob2004 wrote:
- mrsrabelo wrote:
- No they want the middle number to be -12c^2d^2
But yeah, I just want to know how to get from the 2 trinomials to the 4 binomials. Then that makes no sense to me when I carry it out, so I can't help you Sorry, I wrote it wrong. I was talking about something else when I was typing it, I changed it in the post. Ok, maybe it's just that I'm getting confused. Original problem...
4c4-37c2d2+9d4
New problem...
4c4-12c2d2+9d4
Solution: get 4 binomials.
Right? Your not the only one that is confused. Original problem: 4c 4-37c 2d 2+9d 4New Problem: 4c 4-12c 2d 2+9d 4(and there is suppoed to be a -25c 2d 2 at the end but that factors out when you factor it into the two trinomials) I don't like Algebra | |
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laprimamirala Detroit Tiger
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| Subject: Re: I hate Algebra 2!!! Fri Sep 12, 2008 1:36 pm | |
| I remember I had to have my high school boyfriend help me with it every day after school plus have extra sessions with my teacher after class I only took one semester of it because I'd already taken all of Algebra I and Geometry; we needed 5 semesters of math to graduate. | |
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catbox_9 DTF1 ADMINISTRATOR Detroit Tiger
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| Subject: Re: I hate Algebra 2!!! Fri Sep 12, 2008 2:00 pm | |
| For a math class, I liked Algebra 2. My teacher was one of those rare good math teachers. He gave me an A in all 4 quarters The class I hated was photography my senior year. I mean it was an easy A and kind of interesting, but still - it's not all that important. If not for that class I could have taken AP Environmental Science (which was supposed to be another easy A) and raised my GPA further...that was the only AP class I didn't get to take. | |
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gs78 Detroit Tiger
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| Subject: Re: I hate Algebra 2!!! Fri Sep 12, 2008 4:04 pm | |
| I hate math
I can balance a checkbook
That's about it! | |
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laprimamirala Detroit Tiger
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| Subject: Re: I hate Algebra 2!!! Fri Sep 12, 2008 6:39 pm | |
| - gs78 wrote:
- I hate math
I can balance a checkbook
That's about it! Unless you're in the sciences or medicine, that's about what you need to know to get by! Oh, and BUDGETING. We had a class called Consumer Business. | |
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gs78 Detroit Tiger
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laprimamirala Detroit Tiger
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| Subject: Re: I hate Algebra 2!!! Fri Sep 12, 2008 7:05 pm | |
| Yup...my mind was fried after the first question! | |
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detroitwings82 Lakeland Flying Tiger
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| Subject: Re: I hate Algebra 2!!! Tue Sep 16, 2008 8:26 am | |
| i freaking hate math its my enemy. | |
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gdennis59 Detroit Tiger
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| Subject: Re: I hate Algebra 2!!! Tue Sep 16, 2008 8:27 am | |
| You hate every subject. So what. lol | |
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laprimamirala Detroit Tiger
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| Subject: Re: I hate Algebra 2!!! Tue Sep 16, 2008 8:34 am | |
| - detroitwings82 wrote:
- i freaking hate math its my enemy.
Just get the basics down because you actually do need them in real life... For example: --when buying a car, calculating your payments --when budgeting --when figuring out your car's gas mileage, and believe me, you will want to know this eventually --when going over your paycheck stub to make sure you were paid correctly (errors can and do happen). I used to hate it too, but I got through it anway. | |
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