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GoGetEmTigers DTF1 ADMINISTRATOR Detroit Tiger
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| Subject: Dad's oversight at Tigers game lands son in foster care Sat May 03, 2008 10:32 pm | |
| BRIAN DICKERSON Hard lemonade, hard priceDad's oversight at Tigers game lands son in foster careBY BRIAN DICKERSON • FREE PRESS COLUMNIST • April 28, 2008 If you watch much television, you've probably heard of a product called Mike's Hard Lemonade. And if you ask Christopher Ratte and his wife how they lost custody of their 7-year-old son, the short version is that nobody in the Ratte family watches much television. The way police and child protection workers figure it, Ratte should have known that what a Comerica Park vendor handed over when Ratte ordered a lemonade for his boy three Saturdays ago contained alcohol, and Ratte's ignorance justified placing young Leo in foster care until his dad got up to speed on the commercial beverage industry. Even if, in hindsight, that decision seems a bit, um, idiotic. Ratte is a tenured professor of classical archaeology at the University of Michigan, which means that, on a given day, he's more likely to be excavating ancient burial sites in Turkey than watching "Dancing with the Stars" -- or even the History Channel, for that matter. The 47-year-old academic says he wasn't even aware alcoholic lemonade existed when he and Leo stopped at a concession stand on the way to their seats in Section 114.
"I'd never drunk it, never purchased it, never heard of it," Ratte of Ann Arbor told me sheepishly last week. "And it's certainly not what I expected when I ordered a lemonade for my 7-year-old."
But it wasn't until the top of the ninth inning that a Comerica Park security guard noticed the bottle in young Leo's hand.
"You know this is an alcoholic beverage?" the guard asked the professor.
"You've got to be kidding," Ratte replied. He asked for the bottle, but the security guard snatched it before Ratte could examine the label.
Mistake or child neglect?
An hour later, Ratte was being interviewed by a Detroit police officer at Children's Hospital, where a physician at the Comerica Park clinic had dispatched Leo -- by ambulance! -- after a cursory exam.Leo betrayed no symptoms of inebriation. But the physician and a police officer from the Comerica substation suggested the ER visit after the boy admitted he was feeling a little nauseated. The Comerica cop estimated that Leo had drunk about 12 ounces of the hard lemonade, which is 5% alcohol. But an ER resident who drew Leo's blood less than 90 minutes after he and his father were escorted from their seats detected no trace of alcohol."Completely normal appearing," the resident wrote in his report, "... he is cleared to go home." But it would be two days before the state of Michigan allowed Ratte's wife, U-M architecture professor Claire Zimmerman, to take their son home, and nearly a week before Ratte was permitted to move back into his own house. And if you think nothing so ludicrous could happen to your family, maybe you should pay a little less attention to who's getting booted from "Dancing with the Stars" and a little more to how the state agency responsible for protecting Michigan's children is going about its work.Doing their dutyAlmost everyone Chris Ratte met the night they took Leo away conceded the state was probably overreacting. The sympathetic cop who interviewed Ratte and his son at the hospital said she was convinced what happened had been an accident, but that her supervisor was insisting the matter be referred to Child Protective Services.And Ratte thought the two child protection workers who came to take Leo away seemed more annoyed with the police than with him. "This is so unnecessary," one told Ratte before driving away with his son. But there was really nothing any of them could do, they all said. They were just adhering to protocol, following orders. And so what had begun as an outing to the ballpark ended with Leo crying himself to sleep in front of a television inside the Child Protective Services building, and Ratte and his wife standing on the sidewalk outside, wondering when they'd see their little boy again. A vain rescue missionChild Protective Services is the unit of the Michigan Department of Human Services responsible for intervening when someone suspects a child is being abused, neglected or endangered. Its powers include the authority to remove children from their homes and transfer them to foster parents who answer only to the state. By law, CPS officials are forbidden to discuss the particulars of any investigation. But Mike Patterson, Child and Family Services director for the Wayne County district that includes Comerica Park, said that in general his agency's discretion is limited once police obtain a court order to remove a child from the parental home -- usually authorized, as in Leo's case, by a juvenile court referee responding to a police officer's recommendation.
"Once the court has authorized a child's removal," Patterson told me, "we cannot return the child to the parental custody" until the court has OK'd it. But that doesn't explain why CPS refused to release Leo to the custody of two aunts -- one a social worker and licensed foster parent -- who drove all night from New England to take custody of their nephew.
Chris Ratte's sisters, Catherine Miller and Felicity Ratte, left Massachusetts at 10:30 the night of the fateful lemonade purchase after the police officer who'd reluctantly requested a removal order told Ratte the state would likely jump at the chance to place Leo with responsible relatives. But when the two women arrived at the CPS office early Sunday, a caseworker explained they would not be allowed to see Leo until they had secured a hotel room. The sisters quickly complied. But by the time they returned to CPS around 10:30 a.m., their nephew had been taken to an undisclosed foster home, where he would remain until a preliminary court hearing the following afternoon. By that Monday, April 7, when Ratte and his wife returned for a meeting with Latricia Jones, the CPS caseworker assigned to their case, no one in the family had been able to talk to Leo for a day and a half. More investigation neededAt a hearing later that day, Jones recommended that Leo remain in foster care until she had completed her investigation, a process she estimated would take several days. It was only after the assistant attorney general who represented CPS admitted that the state was not interested in pursuing the case aggressively that juvenile referee Leslie Graves agreed to release Leo to his mother -- on the condition that Ratte himself relocate to a hotel. Finally, at a second hearing three days later, Graves dismissed the complaint and permitted Ratte to move home. Don Duquette, a U-M law professor who directs the university's Child Advocacy Law Clinic, represented Ratte and his wife. He notes sardonically that the most remarkable thing about the couple's case may be the relative speed with which they were reunited with Leo. Duquette says the emergency removal powers of CPS, though "well-intentioned" are "out of control and partly responsible for the large numbers of kids in the foster care system," which is almost universally acknowledged to be badly overburdened.Ratte and his wife have filed a formal complaint with the CPS ombudsman's office."I have apologized to Leo from the bottom of my heart for the silly mistake that got him into this mess," Ratte wrote in the complaint. "But I have also told him that what happened afterward was an even bigger error, and I would like to be able to say to him that institutions, like people, can learn from their mistakes." Contact BRIAN DICKERSON at 248-351-3697 or bdickerson@freepress.com.
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catbox_9 DTF1 ADMINISTRATOR Detroit Tiger
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| Subject: Re: Dad's oversight at Tigers game lands son in foster care Sat May 03, 2008 10:44 pm | |
| That's pretty dumb. Like 1 drink is going to kill the kid. That stuff barely has alcohol in it anyways. If the guy was trying to get his kid drunk why would he do it in public when he could do it at home for a lot less? | |
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gs78 Detroit Tiger
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| Subject: Re: Dad's oversight at Tigers game lands son in foster care Sat May 03, 2008 11:21 pm | |
| In France; Kids drink wine.
How nice of the Gustapo { Tigers Security] to notice in the ninth inning.
I mentioned this in the Game Thread; But last year; I often saw vendors selling Mike's Hard Lemonade in the same container along with bottled pop and soda.
They don't sell beer with pop and water; Why Mike's lemonade. | |
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gs78 Detroit Tiger
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| Subject: Re: Dad's oversight at Tigers game lands son in foster care Sat May 03, 2008 11:24 pm | |
| America is becoming a police state more and more!
State Child Care Workers are a Bunch of Fucking Nazis if you ask me! They let that Ricky Kid die at the hands of abusive foster parents but take away the kid in this case!
Facism Lives in Amerika!
But the Neo Cons[ that control the Michigan Legislature, the Monkeys in Detroit,[ Kwame's Boys] and that bitch Granholm, have no problem with it!
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gs78 Detroit Tiger
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| Subject: Re: Dad's oversight at Tigers game lands son in foster care Sat May 03, 2008 11:27 pm | |
| And one more thing; There are cough medicines that have more alcohol [ in them] than Mike's Lemonade | |
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gs78 Detroit Tiger
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| Subject: Re: Dad's oversight at Tigers game lands son in foster care Sat May 03, 2008 11:28 pm | |
| Tastes like Kool Aid to me! | |
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catbox_9 DTF1 ADMINISTRATOR Detroit Tiger
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| Subject: Re: Dad's oversight at Tigers game lands son in foster care Sat May 03, 2008 11:28 pm | |
| As far as I'm aware (Tigerbob can correct me) children as young as 5 can have alcohol at restaurants. | |
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gs78 Detroit Tiger
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| Subject: Re: Dad's oversight at Tigers game lands son in foster care Sat May 03, 2008 11:29 pm | |
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GoGetEmTigers DTF1 ADMINISTRATOR Detroit Tiger
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| Subject: Re: Dad's oversight at Tigers game lands son in foster care Sun May 04, 2008 12:43 am | |
| I can not believe that Child Protective services were brought in when they had no evidence that the child even drank the beverage! The blood tests even showed zero alcohol in the boys bloodstream! - Quote :
- An hour later, Ratte was being interviewed by a Detroit police officer at Children's Hospital, where a physician at the Comerica Park clinic had dispatched Leo -- by ambulance! -- after a cursory exam.
Leo betrayed no symptoms of inebriation. But the physician and a police officer from the Comerica substation suggested the ER visit after the boy admitted he was feeling a little nauseated.
The Comerica cop estimated that Leo had drunk about 12 ounces of the hard lemonade, which is 5% alcohol. But an ER resident who drew Leo's blood less than 90 minutes after he and his father were escorted from their seats detected no trace of alcohol.
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gs78 Detroit Tiger
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| Subject: Re: Dad's oversight at Tigers game lands son in foster care Sun May 04, 2008 2:04 am | |
| Because they are a bunch of facists.
Like I said they let that Ricky Kid die at the hands of abusive foster parents but they take away a kid from his parents because he took a sip of Lemonade that is 95 percent lemonade and 5 ercent booze.
Our priorities are so fucked up!
Give me a break. | |
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gs78 Detroit Tiger
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| Subject: Re: Dad's oversight at Tigers game lands son in foster care Sun May 04, 2008 2:10 am | |
| I bet it be a long time before they attend a Tigers Game Again! | |
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gs78 Detroit Tiger
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| Subject: Re: Dad's oversight at Tigers game lands son in foster care Sun May 04, 2008 2:19 am | |
| The boy might have felt nauseated sitting in the hot Comerica Park Sun.
I have gotten a stomachache, or a head ache or sun burn ache over the years sitting game after game there | |
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gs78 Detroit Tiger
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| Subject: Re: Dad's oversight at Tigers game lands son in foster care Sun May 04, 2008 3:09 am | |
| Poor Kid; Instead of enjoying a Tigers Game; The kid is taken away from his family because of an honest mistake.
I got a great idea; Let's find the worst possible foster home for the kid.
Scar him for life;
With a little luck; He can go straight to jail when he is 18 [ at 30,000 grand a year]
Give Me a Break State Workers!
You overreacted big time Morons! | |
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laprimamirala Detroit Tiger
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| Subject: Re: Dad's oversight at Tigers game lands son in foster care Sun May 04, 2008 9:08 am | |
| - gs78 wrote:
- And one more thing; There are cough medicines that have more alcohol [ in them] than Mike's Lemonade
Kids nowadays have entire medicine cabinets at their disposal. Years ago, it probably would've been laughed off as an honest mistake, but today, ugh, how different. | |
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gdennis59 Detroit Tiger
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| Subject: Re: Dad's oversight at Tigers game lands son in foster care Sun May 04, 2008 11:10 pm | |
| Im not surprised, guys from Ann Arbor...
Please dont ban me!!! | |
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gs78 Detroit Tiger
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| Subject: Re: Dad's oversight at Tigers game lands son in foster care Mon May 05, 2008 2:20 am | |
| I feel sorry for the kid;
Crying for his parents!
Good One State of Michigan! | |
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tigersaint Detroit Tiger
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| Subject: Re: Dad's oversight at Tigers game lands son in foster care Mon May 05, 2008 12:59 pm | |
| - gs78 wrote:
- The boy might have felt nauseated sitting in the hot Comerica Park Sun.
I have gotten a stomachache, or a head ache or sun burn ache over the years sitting game after game there Watching the Tigers play this year would make ANYONE sick!! | |
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tigersaint Detroit Tiger
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| Subject: Re: Dad's oversight at Tigers game lands son in foster care Mon May 05, 2008 1:02 pm | |
| This whole thing is ludicrous....
It is getting so that adults (parents AND teachers) are even afraid to TALK to children for fear of getting arrested or some other stupid thing!! | |
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gs78 Detroit Tiger
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| Subject: Re: Dad's oversight at Tigers game lands son in foster care Mon May 05, 2008 1:03 pm | |
| Yesterday's Game made me sick!
No way in hell should the Tigers have blown a 6-0 lead!
And we can't score one run after the first inning?
With our Lineup!
Leyland better shake things up!
Bunch of Bullshit! | |
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gs78 Detroit Tiger
Number of posts : 27687 Age : 45 Location : Trashy Park Michigan Favorite Current Tiger(s) : Dontrelle Willis, Brandon Inge, Maggs, Verlander, Granderson, Pudge and Todd Jones Reputation : 9 Registration date : 2007-10-06
| Subject: Re: Dad's oversight at Tigers game lands son in foster care Mon May 05, 2008 1:05 pm | |
| You got that right Tigersaint!
How traumatizing it must have been for that child
Childhood Memories of going to Tigers Games should be fun ones!
Not this bullcrapola! | |
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laprimamirala Detroit Tiger
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| Subject: Re: Dad's oversight at Tigers game lands son in foster care Mon May 05, 2008 2:22 pm | |
| - tigersaint wrote:
- This whole thing is ludicrous....
It is getting so that adults (parents AND teachers) are even afraid to TALK to children for fear of getting arrested or some other stupid thing!! Working in the church, my husband had to go through special training to spot child abuse warning signs. | |
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iluvpudge7 Erie SeaWolf
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| Subject: Re: Dad's oversight at Tigers game lands son in foster care Mon May 05, 2008 6:26 pm | |
| - laprimamirala wrote:
- gs78 wrote:
- And one more thing; There are cough medicines that have more alcohol [ in them] than Mike's Lemonade
Kids nowadays have entire medicine cabinets at their disposal. Years ago, it probably would've been laughed off as an honest mistake, but today, ugh, how different. Yeah, today things are just so ridiculous. Obviously the guy just made a mistake. | |
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GoGetEmTigers DTF1 ADMINISTRATOR Detroit Tiger
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| Subject: Re: Dad's oversight at Tigers game lands son in foster care Mon May 05, 2008 7:28 pm | |
| - iluvpudge7 wrote:
- laprimamirala wrote:
- gs78 wrote:
- And one more thing; There are cough medicines that have more alcohol [ in them] than Mike's Lemonade
Kids nowadays have entire medicine cabinets at their disposal. Years ago, it probably would've been laughed off as an honest mistake, but today, ugh, how different. Yeah, today things are just so ridiculous. Obviously the guy just made a mistake. And the cops and child protective services just wanted to throw their weight around! I hope the man does take the vendor and CPS to court! | |
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gs78 Detroit Tiger
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| Subject: Re: Dad's oversight at Tigers game lands son in foster care Tue May 06, 2008 2:12 am | |
| Of course they do.
Then the cops wonder why people have such little respect for them in the Detroit Free Press cyber Forums. For Example;
Respect is a two way street. | |
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