GDT: 3/4/08 - Tigers @ Astros

Subject: Re: GDT: 3/4/08 - Tigers @ Astros Tue Mar 04, 2008 4:48 pm

Base hit/ E6 (TBD)

Subject: Re: GDT: 3/4/08 - Tigers @ Astros Tue Mar 04, 2008 4:49 pm

Let's go Clete!

Subject: Re: GDT: 3/4/08 - Tigers @ Astros Tue Mar 04, 2008 4:49 pm

Safe on first for Ramirez

Come on Clete

Subject: Re: GDT: 3/4/08 - Tigers @ Astros Tue Mar 04, 2008 4:50 pm

C'mon Clete!

Subject: Re: GDT: 3/4/08 - Tigers @ Astros Tue Mar 04, 2008 4:51 pm

Ground rule double rant

Stupid wall is too short!

Subject: Re: GDT: 3/4/08 - Tigers @ Astros Tue Mar 04, 2008 4:51 pm

GR double damn

Subject: Re: GDT: 3/4/08 - Tigers @ Astros Tue Mar 04, 2008 4:52 pm

Tigers

Subject: Re: GDT: 3/4/08 - Tigers @ Astros Tue Mar 04, 2008 4:53 pm

And thats all folks another loss!

Subject: Re: GDT: 3/4/08 - Tigers @ Astros Tue Mar 04, 2008 4:54 pm

Good thing it's only spring training!

Subject: Re: GDT: 3/4/08 - Tigers @ Astros Tue Mar 04, 2008 4:54 pm

Subject: Re: GDT: 3/4/08 - Tigers @ Astros Tue Mar 04, 2008 4:57 pm

catbox_9 wrote:: I need to relisten to Dock of the Bay.

Decision made...

Nod

Subject: Re: GDT: 3/4/08 - Tigers @ Astros Tue Mar 04, 2008 5:00 pm

Our starters did well, GDT: 3/4/08 - Tigers @ Astros - Page 10 7_2_111

Jones killed the game!

Subject: Re: GDT: 3/4/08 - Tigers @ Astros Tue Mar 04, 2008 5:04 pm

Detroit

AB

R

H

RBI

BB

SO

LOB

AVG

Rodriguez, C

3

1

0

2

.167

Skelton, C

2

0

1

0

1

.500

Polanco, P, 2B

3

2

3

1

0

.533

Sizemore, 2B

2

1

2

1

0

.375

Guillen, 1B

3

0

3

.133

Larish, 1B

2

0

3

.000

Ordonez, DH

3

0

2

0

1

.417

b-Trzesniak, PH-DH

1

0

2

.500

Cabrera, 3B

3

1

0

1

.188

Hollimon, M, 3B

2

0

1

0

.250

Renteria, SS

3

0

1

0

.200

Santiago, SS

2

1

0

1

.500

Perez, T, LF

3

1

2

1

0

1

0

.417

a-Ramirez, W, PH-LF

2

1

2

0

.545

Clevlen, RF

3

1

0

1

0

.455

Thomas, RF

2

0

1

0

1

0

.125

Guzman, Fre, CF

5

1

3

1

0

2

.500

Totals

44

10

19

10

0

5

16

a-Homered for Perez, T in the 8th. b-Popped out for Ordonez in the 8th.

BATTING
2B: Renteria (2, Oswalt), Polanco, P (1, Brocail), Santiago (1, Muecke), Thomas (1, Geary).
HR: Rodriguez (1, 1st inning off Oswalt, 0 on, 0 out), Ramirez, W (2, 8th inning off Muecke, 1 on, 0 out).
TB:
Rodriguez 4; Skelton; Polanco, P 4; Sizemore 2; Hollimon, M; Renteria
2; Santiago 2; Perez, T 2; Ramirez, W 5; Clevlen; Thomas 2; Guzman, Fre
3.
RBI: Rodriguez (1), Renteria (1), Perez, T (1), Ordonez 2 (4), Guzman, Fre (1), Polanco, P (2), Ramirez, W 2 (7), Sizemore (1).
2-out RBI: Renteria; Perez, T; Polanco, P.
Runners left in scoring position, 2 out: Guillen 2; Trzesniak 2; Guzman, Fre 2.
SF: Ordonez.
GIDP: Cabrera.
Team LOB: 8.

BASERUNNING
SB: Sizemore (1, 2nd base off Borkowski/Towles), Guzman, Fre (1, 3rd base off Muecke/Towles).

FIELDING
DP: (Santiago-Sizemore-Larish).

Detroit	IP	H	R	ER	BB	SO	HR	ERA
Robertson	3.0	2	0	0	0	4	0	1.80
Jones, T	1.0	5	6	6	1	0	1	31.50
Byrdak (L, 0-1)	1.0	3	1	1	0	1	0	6.00
McBride	2.0	7	4	4	1	1	0	9.00
Beltran	1.0	0	0	0	2	2	0	0.00

Subject: Re: GDT: 3/4/08 - Tigers @ Astros Tue Mar 04, 2008 5:05 pm

catbox_9 wrote:

catbox_9 wrote:: I need to relisten to Dock of the Bay.

Decision made...

Nod

Subject: Re: GDT: 3/4/08 - Tigers @ Astros Tue Mar 04, 2008 5:07 pm

Gezzz Byrdak gets the lose by giving up 1 run in one inning, yet Todd Jones gives up 6 runs in one inning. I understand their method, but Todd deserves the "L"

Subject: Re: GDT: 3/4/08 - Tigers @ Astros Tue Mar 04, 2008 5:12 pm

GoGetEmTigers wrote:: Gezzz Byrdak gets the lose by giving up 1 run in one inning, yet Todd Jones gives up 6 runs in one inning. I understand their method, but Todd deserves the "L"

Question. Which of the following describes your opinion:

A. W-L record is a good way to judge a pitcher's effectiveness
B. W-L record is a poor way to judge a pitcher's effectiveness

If you answered A think carefully about this game. Jones gets credit for nothing in his W-L record.

Subject: Re: GDT: 3/4/08 - Tigers @ Astros Tue Mar 04, 2008 5:12 pm

I love the roller coaster smileys!

Subject: Re: GDT: 3/4/08 - Tigers @ Astros Tue Mar 04, 2008 5:14 pm

It describes him perfectly!

Subject: Re: GDT: 3/4/08 - Tigers @ Astros Tue Mar 04, 2008 5:19 pm

catbox_9 wrote:

GoGetEmTigers wrote:: Gezzz Byrdak gets the lose by giving up 1 run in one inning, yet Todd Jones gives up 6 runs in one inning. I understand their method, but Todd deserves the "L"

Question. Which of the following describes your opinion:

A. W-L record is a good way to judge a pitcher's effectiveness
B. W-L record is a poor way to judge a pitcher's effectiveness

If you answered A think carefully about this game. Jones gets credit for nothing in his W-L record.

MY STATEMENT FULLY GOES WITH B.!

grouch

Subject: Re: GDT: 3/4/08 - Tigers @ Astros Tue Mar 04, 2008 5:32 pm

GoGetEmTigers wrote:: MY STATEMENT FULLY GOES WITH B.!

Hooray! People that say A can get real irritating. They'll claim Paul Byrd is as good as Johan Santana because he was 15-8 to Santana's 15-13

Subject: Re: GDT: 3/4/08 - Tigers @ Astros Tue Mar 04, 2008 5:39 pm

The best example I give with this is Ben Sheets' 2004 season...

34 starts, 237 innings, 5 CG, 264 K, 32 BB, 0.98 WHIP, 2.70 ERA, 162 ERA+

Oh and his record that year? 12-14 (.462)

Subject: Re: GDT: 3/4/08 - Tigers @ Astros Tue Mar 04, 2008 5:47 pm

bobrob2004 wrote:: The best example I give with this is Ben Sheets' 2004 season...

34 starts, 237 innings, 5 CG, 264 K, 32 BB, 0.98 WHIP, 2.70 ERA, 162 ERA+

Oh and his record that year? 12-14 (.462)

Whoa! He sucks! Rolling Eyes

Then there's Randy Johnson in 2004....

5.00 ERA, 1.239 WHIP, 90 ERA+
He went 17-11 but didn't receive a single Cy Young vote scratch

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